If you have been reading our website regularly, you will know that we got into a discussion about letting 13-year-olds have abortions or not. To some, this is a complicated issue.
To others, it is not as God’s rules do not change no matter the age of the person committing the sin. We will quote some of the comments and address them more specifically than we did in the comment section so everyone is clear on this issue.
Of course, you will notice that the person providing the argument that they should be allowed abortions does not quote one scripture to support his argument. it is all his personal point of view which may be shared by countless others.
That is the difference. We do not care about people’s personal points of view because they are not the last word on this topic and they do not hold an authoritative office superior to God. Most of the time, their personal points of view are heavily influenced by evil.
I’ve saved your page so we’ll see who makes edits David. I’ve saved this comment too, so we’ll who is dishonest (and guess what, it’s you)
Go ahead we do not care if you do that or not. Just give us the credit when you do so. You are helping our cause by spreading the words God wants his creation to hear.
Also, spare us the false charges as we made it well-known we will edit certain comments especially when they are insulting us. You will look better if we edit out insulting terminology.
Is abortion wrong in the event that a minor is raped David?
Yes, it is and even our British antagonist knows that 2 wrongs do not make a right. never has and both Christians and non-Christians know this fact. It hasn’t changed in 5000 years.
Plus, the Bible does not teach that you can do wrong to correct a wrong. it does teach that you are to obey God at all times even when someone is doing wrong to you. Turn the other cheek is just one of those lessons.
All the verses on forgiving others is another set of passages one needs to incorporate into this situation as is vengeance is mine says the Lord. The crime does not nullify biblical teaching.
So… if a 13 year-old girl is raped, she must then be expected to carry the baby to term?
Yes, she must unless an accidental miscarriage takes place. The developing child did nothing wrong here that warrants the taking of its life. The 13-year-old is not at fault for being raped or becoming pregnant, she had no say in it either thus she should not be expected to endure the guilt, trauma, and psychological issues that come with having an abortion.
The Bible, in the OT, explicitly states that children are not to pay for their parent’s sins. They are not guilty of rape.
So your sympathy for underage rape victims is… what exactly?
Exactly where it should be. If that were our calling, we would do what we can to help her through this situation. As we stated, she is not guilty of rape nor for getting pregnant so she would not lose standing in our eyes and deserves the best Christian care possible.
Our sympathy does not include helping her to sin by killing her innocent child. Christian love does not encourage the use of sin nor help anyone to sin. In the case of hiding Anne Frank or other Jewish people, hiding them can be seen helping the oppressors to not sin by keeping them from killing people simply because they are Jewish people.
So a minor is the victim of an horrific crime and then they should be forced to undergo the tremendous trauma of pregnancy and childbirth (which by the way, can kill or cripple kids of that age).
You’re advocating that kids be forced to have kids.
This comment provides a great example of how the world distorts life and development. If the girl is old enough to get pregnant, she is no longer a child. it is a sad state of affairs that life has developed to the point where teenagers are still considered children.
Yes, they do have a lot to learn but then so do those adults who are past the legal age of majority. We are doing a great dis-service to teenagers by stunting their mental, educational, and experiential growth by keeping them classified as children. Then treat them as such.
We have always respected the Jewish tradition of Bar and Bat Mitzvahs where members of that faith get a ceremony letting them know that they have left childhood and became an adult. This lack in most other religions and cultures is probably one reason parents have so much trouble with their teenagers.
Parents need to learn to let go and spend more time training and teaching their children instead of ‘letting them have a childhood.’ This too is an issue for another day.
We do wish that person would stop using inflammatory and distorted adjectives to describe rape and pregnancy. It is overly dramatic and makes constructive discussion virtually impossible. it also taints the discussion with the user’s personal bias that makes it hard to talk to them.
Emotion has always been a problem when it comes to talking about sensitive issues. What he left out in his comment is any allusion to parents who should be there to help their young daughters in this situation.
But that narrative did not fit his point so he ignored it completely. That is one reason why we do not answer his comments more fully. If life were fair, people around the world would have first-class medical treatment without corruption.
Unfortunately, because sin abounds, another pertinent issue that person ignores, life is not fair and parents do not always help their children. allowing young teenagers to abort is the easy exit out of a tough situation. It is not the right one.
For Christian parents to take this step, means teaching their children that it is okay to disobey God, and nowhere in the bible does God tell his followers to disobey him in any situation.
Nothing has been overstated because I didn’t make any sort of claim as to the frequency of teen death or injury due to pregnancy and childbirth. However, since it’s clear you clearly did not do any kind of check of your own, take a look here:
Do you see those numbers David? Pregnancy is the greatest killer of teenagers between 15-19.
This too is a topic for another day but there is a problem with just making this type of comment. One, has been cherry-picked. Two, he starts talking about 13 year-olds and rape.. Those figures are not limited to rape or 13-year-olds.
Three, he broadens the discussion to include facts and figures in order to make his point even though we were not talking about any girl older than 15. Four, he ignores all other influences and possible aid that has been and is provided. furthermore, he leaves out important details when he makes his next point:
Teenagers are not physically developed enough for pregnancy or childbirth, and the babies themselves suffer complications as well, as per the above link.
Since when? young girls have been giving birth and enduring pregnancy since the beginning of time. if they can get pregnant then their bodies are ready for pregnancy.
If the baby suffers complications, it is usually due to other factors, not the teenager’s body. We left out the links as they were not pertinent to the issue and need to be dealt with at another time.
Keep in mind that those websites he linked to are from secular sources and do not tell the truth in most cases.
You clearly ignored the numbers of teens who die and suffer as a result of pregnancy,
No, we do not ignore such things but take them with a grain of salt as often the source for the girl’s demise is often mis-identified or altered for whatever reason the medical professionals and statistic takers have.
The problem with that person making the comment is that he cannot accept the death happens and that it is something that can be wiped out. It can’t. The Bible tells us that it is appointed unto man once to die and that verse does not exclude women.
What it excludes is the method of their deaths. This is why we, as well as many other preachers, encourage people to obey God at all times. Even if you are young, you need to obey God because you do not know the manner or time of your demise.
God punishes those who disobey him and death is not a punishment. it is the way God set up life. We need to accept that fact and then live accordingly. Following his commands and teaching so that we can enter heaven.
We do not encourage people to sin or have an abortion, no matter their age, for that means we sin as well and are in need of God’s grace to get forgiveness and back on the right track.
As God said in Deut. 4 and other chapters, parents and grandparents are to teach their children the commands of God and to obey them The onus is on the parents here to train their children to be obedient to God in all situations even when pregnant.
Then it is up to the parents to get the truth first and apply the truth correctly so their children do not have to be afraid nor suffer by making more mistakes. We protect our children by teaching them the right things, the things they need to know, in the right manner.
We don’t protect them by letting them sin or isolating them from life.
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