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Our Comments on a Few Topics 10

#1. So much wrong with this

A biological male who identifies as female won a cycling world championship Sunday, sparking controversy over fairness in athletics.

Rachel McKinnon won the 35-44 female age bracket at the UCI Masters track cycling championships in Los Angeles

“First transgender woman world champion…ever*” McKinnon wrote on Twitter

He may identify as a woman, but he is just a person pretending to be something he is not. Some people may argue the point and say that since the term transgender doesn’t appear in the bible, that God has not addressed this issue. He has. He just doesn’t use the same terms as we do. In the OT he talks about making 2 genders only and those options were perfect. He talks about men and women not dressing in each other’s clothes- he is against it. In the NT he talks about how the body is the temple of God and that it should not be corrupted; he also talks about deception and false teaching.

God says a lot about how wrong transgender is. Is letting that competitor compete with women fair? Of course not. The Bible tells us that the woman is the weaker gender. It is no contest. Men should not compete against women and women should not compete against men, no matter how talented they are. Doing otherwise and bowing to the demands of the LGBTQ community is wrong.

We are getting into an age where the western world will be like the city of Nineveh in Jonah’s day– not knowing their right hand from their left.

#2. We are glad he won

The city of Atlanta agreed Monday to pay former fire chief Kelvin Cochran $1.2 million, four years after he was suspended and then fired for publishing a book containing historic Christian beliefs.

Cochran’s self-published 162-page book, “Who Told You That You Were Naked?: Overcoming the Stronghold of Condemnation,” included Bible verses addresses sexuality and homosexuality. It was the latter topic that sparked a controversy and an investigation and eventually, his termination. He wrote the book on non-work time.

We also like the ruling as it was sound, logical and rational.

#3. Don’t think this will stop

Two Christian filmmakers are going before the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals in St. Paul, Minnesota on Tuesday, to challenge the state’s law that is forcing them to create videos that contradict their religious beliefs.

According to CBN, Telescope Media Group owners Carl and Angel Larsen wanted to enter into the wedding industry, but the state’s Human Rights Act prohibits the couple from pursuing this avenue unless they make films promoting same-sex marriage, a union that their Christian beliefs define as between one man and one woman

Governments will continue to find ways to make LGBTQ practicing people seem natural, normal and okay. That is until the support and the fad surrounding these issues go away. They are concerned more about votes than anything else. It isn’t the votes of the LGBTQ members that they are worried about. They are still a very small minority. It is the votes of their straight friends, family and observers that they worry about. That is not a small minority.

God has given governments the right to rule and Jesus never said to go against the government in a sinful way. So when defending yourselves or protesting these regulations make sure you stay within biblical teaching. We cannot win if we sin in our struggle against wrong decisions. The first battle of Ai proved that.

#4. Fear cannot defeat love

Fear Grips Churches in Northeastern Kenya as Muslim Extremists Kill Two Christian Teachers

We aren’t condemning or going to condemn anyone here. Overcoming fear is a hard thing to do. But the Bible tells us that love casts out fear. So if we love God then death and what unbelievers do to us should not make us afraid or fear anything. We have a God who has promised us a new home.

#5. It is a wrong law

n 2016, Canada legalized “Medical Assistance in Dying also known as MAID. The terminology is, of course, a euphemism for euthanasia. To be eligible for MAID, persons must be at least 18-years-old and have a “grievous and irremediable” condition.

Like all such death-devoted legislation, terms like “grievous and irremediable” are moving targets. Descriptions used in the law include expressions like “serious and incurable,” “irreversible decline,” and suffering—both “physical and psychological”—that a person finds “intolerable.”

Of course, nearly all of these words are subjective: What’s “intolerable” to one person may not be to another. If Netherlands and Belgium are any indication, we can be sure that eligibility for MAID will, like gas, expand to fill whatever space is available.

The Bible says that if man spills the blood of man then his blood is required (done from memory). We do not see that penalty revoked in that or any other passage of scripture. Nor do we see any clause that exempts assisted suicide.Even though it is difficult to handle, we do not see God changing his views because some people cannot endure their illness.

Governments should not be promoting the ending a life no matter how many of its citizens complain and cry out. Governments leaders need to lead the people to what is right and lead them away from what is wrong. Church leaders cannot let the terms compassion and love distort or influence their biblical views in the wrong way. We love God thus we must present his way in the most compassionate way possible even if it goes against popular sentiments.



Our Comments on a Few Topics 8

#1. McCarthyism all over

Sexual abuse survivor and co-founder of Saddleback Church in California, Kay Warren, urged white Christians to drop their support for Republican Supreme Court Nominee Brett Kavanaugh if sexual assault allegations against him are proven to be true.

It is not just this article or person we are talking about. It is just the lead in. We are addressing every person, every article written on this topic, the #metoo and #churchtoo movements, et al. This need to punish people for sins committed decades earlier is not Christian. It lacks forgiveness, mercy, justice as well as evidence. The very same characteristics which fueled the McCarthy Era witch hunts.

It seems that Christians have not learned to stop throwing their fellow believers under the bus for the slightest possible scriptural violation. There are biblical steps to take in these issues and following the laws of the country one resides in are not outside of those steps. As long as those laws do not violate God’s instructions then they need to be taken into account. For example- the rules of evidence. A story is not enough, an accusation is not enough.

Real verifiable evidence is needed before judging someone guilty. Justice is not done by ignoring God’s instructions and being an alleged sexual abuse survivor does not elevate anyone above God.

#2. It isn’t just the male’s fault-

Why do we have so many guys from the college campus to the corporate C-Suite to the Hollywood and political elite dishonoring and devaluing women? As stories of boys behaving badly continue, we can no longer only ask what is wrong with them. This isn’t just a story about an individual. It’s about a sizable segment of the male population in America

When we read biased one-sided pieces like this we get very upset. It lays the blame for the problems of society at the man’s feet and tries to make the woman innocent of any wrongdoing. Do we need to remind the author of the picture that was released a few days back? It had Blake Lively standing smiling over a naked man not her husband.

Or do we need to remind him of the popular song sang by some famous female artists about their being allowed to wear underwear in public and they cannot be touched? Sorry but this is not a men’s only problem. Is not a gender-specific problem. it is a sin problem and supposed Christians need to get off the #metoo bandwagon and start implementing God’s instructions in their lives.

The church is to bring God’s justice to the issues, not blindly side with one gender over another. The church needs to raise godly men and women, not just men. Also, the author seems to have forgotten that evil men and women will get worse not better over time, that is in the bible also.

#3. No, it is the sin culture

Powers is correct. In the 1980s we lacked the vocabulary to make such declarations. But the sobering fact is that we’re only now beginning to acquire it. Kirsten Powers is a very intelligent, savvy, and self-possessed commentator. If she only came to label properly her own thirty-five-year-old sexual assault within the last week, I suspect many of us have a ways to go in identifying and calling out rape culture.

It is surprising at how so many intelligent Christians can be so blinded by modern culture. Rape, sexual abuse, and other sexual sins have been taking place since the beginning of time. Do you really think this is a modern issue and those sins weren’t part of the pre-flood world? We have never lacked the vocabulary to describe these sins. The same vocabulary used today has been around since the beginning of time as well.

It is the sin culture that spawns these and other sins. Once we identify the correct problem, then we know how to handle the issue correctly. But because so many men and women,  Christian and not, reject Gods ways, we get these distorted opinions about what is happening in our society. Social media is not a therapist’s  room and the public should not have to be subjected to stories that have no evidence, or theallegedd offender has died.

Sally Field is a prime example blaming two men who cannot defend themselves. Connie Chung accused one just yeserday. If no one, including the church, does not call for adherence to the rules, then we will see God get angry as too many innocent people are being hurt, abused and have their lives ruined over stories that may or may not have taken place.

The same sin culture has owmen lying about their sexual experiences and imprisoning innocent men. The list of freed innocent men is long as several organizations work to right those wrongs. If women want justice then they need to stop using the public media outlets as their court. They and their supporters need to gather real evidence.

Justice is not about revenge, vengeance or even hurting some person. Doesn’t matter the gender. God’s justice is not served when people, especially those who claim to follow Jesus, do not follow the rules correctly.  It may be easier to find the right words to express what one has experienced if they stopped using public forums and going to private people trained to help.

Oh and do not expect to be believed right away if you have no evidence, can’t remember any details and keep in mind there are a lot of people lying about their experiences. Sin ruins legitimate needs.

#4. Why?

Christian leaders remained bitterly divided over the sex assault accusations surrounding Judge Brett Kavanaugh, as President Donald Trump ordered a weeklong FBI investigation on Saturday.

If anything they should be united  about the lack of evidence, the failure to remember anything, the possible political motivations of the witness and liberal politicians and more. Christian leaders should not be throwing any rules out simply because a woman makes a statement about something that may or may not have happened.

If anything, that women should be charged with lying to congress, perjury, failing to follow the rules of evidence and more. She has done nothing right legally. Being a supposed victim does not mean that the rules of the legal system get ignored. God doe snot support such dishonesty.


The church needs to realize that the unbelieving world is the world that is lost, deceived, blind and without truth. This fact may help it handle these sexual issues a lot better than it is. Being the light unto the world does not need a special invitation when the blind world goes off track and ruins justice. The secular world cannot see real justice because of evil that is why it is so important for the  church to do everything God’s way.

In the above examples we do not see God getting any glory, we do not see his justice being implemented or prevailing over sinful conclusions. What we see is the church and Christians failing to teach the truth and keep both  men and women honest, godly and in the truth.


Our Comments on a Few Topics 7

We decided to break up the Sodom series as there are a few topics that should be addressed


Anne Graham Lotz on Cancer Diagnosis: ‘I Trust God Will Heal Me, Before or After Surgery’

It is this title that causes us to do some reflection. For the majority of Christians that publicly talk about their different illnesses, why is it that they all seek to be healed? Are none of them wanting to be with God?  Is life that special that they prefer that to being in the presence of the Most High God? God will heal, he had done it to Hezekiah and others. Jesus’ ministry was filled with healing. But sometimes we wonder why Christian leaders always go for healing over promotion to eternity.

We will give them the benefit of the doubt and think that they are like us- there is still just too much work to do.


He lived in my house. #whyididntreport,” Moore tweeted on Friday.

We understand why many women do not report sexual abuse. We also understand why men do not report it when it happens to them. But you know what, waiting 10, 20 or even 30 years later is not helping the issue especially when those doing the reporting do not submit verifiable evidence. By not reporting it victims do not get help, and justice cannot be done.

Violating the rules of evidence does not help justice and lets supposed victims gain a measure of revenge at the hands of justice. God did not teach to ruin people or to make accusations without real evidence. Christians should know better and they should know that if they did not report it when it happened they should seek help privately. Not make it a public spectacle to get headlines.


Queer students are just as able to have romanticized relationships that abide by APU’s rules.

It may fit APU’s guidelines but they do not meet God’s. They may conduct themselves in a monogamous, etc., same-sex relationship that follows biblical teaching but the fact that they are in a same-sex relationship, violates God’s rules and they are not in a biblical relationship even though they follow certain biblical rules.


As Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh is facing a new round of allegations involving sexual assault, gang rapes and drunken parties, commentators have taken to the internet to voice their thoughts on the newest developments in the quest to confirm the 53-year-old judge.

We do not condone or approve of that behavior for anyone not just Mr. Kavanaugh. But what we see going on is the Democrats attempt to assassinate someone’s character, ruin his life and force the appointment to a time when they like. We do not see honesty, justice and any other positive characteristic involved from the Democrats. The fact that he was approved for different positions over the years and these alegations did not get mentioned support our point of view.

The Democrats will ignore the same allegations if their favorite person is nominated for the Supreme Court or other high office position. They did it with Clinton.


Christian Colleges Must ‘Address LGBT Conversation’ but ‘Maintain Spiritual Identity,’ Says Expert

LGBTQ members make up a very small minority of people. Why should Christians change to allow these people of sin ruin their Christian ministry? While LGBTQ people should be allowed to enroll and attend Christian colleges, they should do so knowing what the rules are and they should not be so selfish that they undermine the Christian institution or its beliefs. If they want to be part of a sinful relationship, then they should stop attending the school and go to a secular institution.

The church does not bend to the will of the LGBTQ community.


Chick-fil-A Helps Hurricane Florence Evacuees; Open Sunday, Giving Free Meals

Christians need to lead by providing the right example. And if this is hate etc., then we would hate to see the alternative.



We do not think he blasted anyone

Except those who do false accusations and those who ignore the rules of evidence, along with the statutory limits rules.

Ousted evangelical leader Paige Patterson returned to the pulpit last week, where he blasted women who falsely accuse men in the #MeToo movement.

We are not politically correct and do not intend to be. We find that being politically correct, honesty, truth, reality are lost, replaced by feel good attitudes that hide the facts from people. We also find that being politically correct is not a biblical teaching. While we do not consider ourselves as on the same level as Jesus, who said some pretty nasty things to the Pharisees, we do not believe in sugar-coating certain aspects of life. People can’t learn correctly if they are put in a vacuum and ‘protected’ from certain views and opinions.

We will speak the truth in love as best we can, which we are sure Jesus did when he spoke harshly to the Pharisees. But back to the quote. In today’s journalistic world, it seems that what is accepted as credible is where supposed journalists state their opinions and ignore facts, the correct definition of words and other pieces of the journalistic puzzle, in hopes of getting more clicks. More clicks means more ad revenue.

But that is a problem that can be solved if today’s supposed reporters followed the traditional rules of journalism and wrote compelling, honest, fact-filled and truthful articles. We do not fool ourselves into thinking that what passes for journalism today is the actual story of what is being reported on. The same for that quote.

Last week, he preached on the biblical story of Joseph, who was falsely accused by an Egyptian woman of sexually abusing her.

We missed using that story and wish we had. It provides compelling evidence that the secular world does not follow the rules of justice, just like the modern does not. What is sad is that the same story is like a mirror to many in the Christian world exposing their unjust treatment of pastors, church leaders, and others who have been unfairly accused and attacked.

The woman’s story is believed when the evidence does not support the accusation. We are still waiting for real evidence to be presented in any of the cases that have made the public arena. By failing to be biblical and just, we are setting a very bad example to our children, fellow believers and the secular world. What stumbling blocks that are raised we do not know but fear that many have been because the church fails to follow God yet again.

The 75-year-old preacher then talked about the current movement in society where various male leaders in church, in politics, in Hollywood, and other institutions are being accused of abusing women.

“I’m all in favor of the #MeToo movement when there is a guilty party,” Patterson said, insisting that men who abuse women are cowardly.

We agree. BUT there must actually be a guilty party, verifiable and credible evidence proving a crime took place and that the sentence passed is fair, just and leads the offender to repentance. Also, the pursuit of justice is done not out of revenge or vengeance, God did not teach us to use either when seeking true justice. The accusers must have a pure heart, not hate-filled and need to forgive those they accuse. God has taught us that if we do not forgive then he won’t. Forgiveness helps us to clean our eyes from the beams the offense and the response to the offense have placed there.

By the same token, I have nothing good to say about a woman who falsely accuses a man. She runs the risk of ruining a life. She runs the risk of causing sorrow unknown when the person is, in fact, innocent,” he added, however.

We agree here as well. The Bible teaches us to not bear false witness against others. A false accusation is lying  and a false witness. The NT tells us not to lie one to another. To receive true justice, God did not teach us to present our accusations without evidence. Being a godly man or woman is not criteria for presenting evidence God’s way.

There must be real and credible evidence and since governments are granted the right to rule over their nations, they have the right to impose statutes of limitations Any accusation must adhere to those human rules. It is not justice or fair to the accused to bring up decades-old supposed offenses that have no credible evidence supporting the claim.

Is ruining a life worth revenge? The Chinese have an old saying, when seeking revenge, before you go on your journey first dig two graves. This means that when you get youor revenge, you kill 2 people. The one you are seeking revenge against and yourself. Jesus does not want us to kill ourselves as he told us to return good for evil.

Some people like the OT’s an eye for an eye, but we do not see that teaching continued in the NT.

Merritt, son of former SBC President James Merritt, criticized Patterson for focusing on the latter, noting that studies have shown that false accusations of sexual assault make up only two percent against the 98 percent epidemic of real abuse.

Actually, we disagree. Both figures seem to be off and we know that statistics can be manipulated very easily.  They also leave out the other side of the story and many facts that are involved which lead to abuse or supposed abuse.

Merritt also took aim at what he said was Patterson “body-shaming” a woman in another anecdote, where the former Southern Baptist leader talked about meeting a parishioner’s mother.

We are very tired of hearing the many different terms that use the word ‘shaming’ as the last word in a descriptive pairing. No one is body shaming anyone when they are speaking the truth. A fat person is a fat person not curvy, or whatever they want to use there in place of the word fat. No one is doing a fat person any favors by hiding their unhealthy girth.

The body is the temple of God and unless there is a true medical reason why a person is overweight we may dare to say that letting oneself ‘go’ is not treating the temple of God correctly. Men and women should strive to keep their bodies healthy, in shape and presentable. But lets not stop telling the truth by accusing those who like facts of shaming anyone. Hiding the truth only lets the bad behavior continue.

Some people need to toughen up if they can’t handle being told that they are over-weight and out of shape. The past few decades have seen the raising of very weak-minded and weak people who do not know how to handle life very well. If you look to the biblical example, you do not see any instruction from either God or Jesus to make peope weak and incapable of dealing with what comes in life.

Deut. has many instructions from God on how to teach children and grandchildren and keeping them in a bubble to ‘protect’ them is not one of those instructions.

But it is an especially inappropriate, even befuddling, choice of material for Patterson (who was coincidentally speaking in a state with the nation’s third-highest obesity rate)

Maybe he needed to say it there because they needed to hear the truth about their physiques. Hiding the truth does not accomplish anything. Speaking the truth in love, does. Oh and we do not care what twitters think.  Fat is not beautiful, it is not healthy and it is life shortening as well as leading to or a product of gluttony. Instead of protecting these overweight people from having hurt feelings, those who protect them, by using all those cute words to describe their obesity, should look to see if the sins of gluttony and lust are present.

We should be looking to stop sin, not let it go undiagnosed to the point where it kills someone– literally.

No biblical grounds were given, let alone, seriously considered. There are numerous Christian leaders who have committed sins worthy of discipline. Patterson is not one of them; he hasn’t committed any such sins. On the contrary, he has done many things worthy of exaltation. In fact, he is one of the top conservative Christian leaders of our day,” he wrote at the time.

“Many who opposed Dr. Patterson were apparently caught up in winds of the #MeToo movement of the day. But no doctrinal or moral charges were even offered, let alone proven by two or more credible witnesses against him,” he added.

In closing, we do need to say that if you cannot be truly spirit led and bring the truth to any given situation, nor follow God’s ways, then do not get involved. You sin while trying to right a wrong and that is not of God either.

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Chelsea Clinton and Abortion

By now everyone has heard of her comments on abortion. We will address a few of her quotes tonight

Chelsea Clinton has said that, as a “deeply religious person,” the idea of America going back to a pre-Roe v. Wade society where abortions were banned is “unChristian.”

We understand. More than 30 years ago we wrote a book on abortion and investigated the issue and what women put themselves through or were forced to endure during that era is not something we would wish on anyone. In spite of the many good abortion ‘doctors’ who took care of their ‘patients’,  there were far too many who took advantage of the woman’s situation and committed horrible crimes against those women.

We would not like to see women put themselves or be put through those situations again. They are as sinful as abortion is. But women do have a choice. They can decide not to abort and take a different route. Why Ms. Clinton and Planned Parenthood are not championing those alternatives to abortion is anyone’s guess. They have a wonderful platform to help women make it through their pregnancy periods and then give up their babies for adoption.

Yet they fight vigorously to keep abortion legal and disguise its evil nature under the term ‘women’s rights.’ It makes you think about how callous Ms. Clinton is and how Planned Parenthood really are. Here they are advocating for a sinful procedure ignoring the pleas of those women and men who cannot have children or would like more.

We think that attitude is very unchristian. While we do not have an answer for when Roe v. Wade is overturned, except that people need to stop having sex outside of marriage and fathers & mothers need to take responsibility for their actions. We do not have any miracle answers to this problem. Obeying God solves most of it.

Clinton said every day she makes the “moral choice” to be optimistic for her children when it comes to what she says is the battle for women’s rights.

What rights? Under most democratic governments, their constitutions list the rights of their people yet the number of those rights differ from country to country. Which country’s list of rights will everyone use? God does not give us any rights, he does tell us what is right and wrong and expects us to obey that instruction. Rights mean absolutely nothing in this world.

Then when we think about her statement, we must ask, does Ms. Clinton think that women deserve special rights? Does her mind think that just because women bear children , that they deserve more than the man who clothes and feeds, etc., those women? We all know that men are not going to rebel and give up on women and let them be single just to get a little equality in this weird new age.

That my efforts and my energies, particularly when I’m fortunate enough to be in partnership with fellow travelers, hopefully will make a difference,” the activist and former first daughter said

If she is so deeply religious, why doesn’t she advocate for both men and women to follow God’s way correctly? It seems her religion is used by her when it benefits her and ignored when it won’t. And sorry, we are not her fellow traveler. No Christian is as she seems to be steering the boat in the wrong direction and leading people to sin against God.

That is not a boat we want to be in. We do not like abortion and we do not like those people who continue to advocate for the murder of innocent people who cannot defend themselves. We just try to treat them all as Christ wants.

And when I think about all of the statistics that are painful of what women are confronting today in our country, and what even more women confronted pre-Roe and how many women died and how many more women were maimed because of unsafe abortion practices, we just can’t go back to that,” Clinton said, referring to the 1973 Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion in the country.

She obviously does not look at statistics very honestly as the ones she is quoting is not matching up with the number of babies that have been aborted over the 300+ years America has been in existence. There is not 1,000,000 +/- women dying each year or being maimed through any type of abortion procedure. Her faulty statistic is not reason enough to continue legal abortions either.

The supporters of abortion continue to claim that it is the women’s body and she can do what she wants with it. That flies in the face of biblical teaching. Sadly, it is not the woman’s body that is being harmed by abortion and we know that God has not granted women or men the right to kill the body of another person. Including the unborn.

Like that’s unconscionable to me, and also, I’m sure that this will unleash another wave of hate in my direction, but as a deeply religious person, it’s also unChristian to me,” she added, referring to her Methodist faith.

Clearly we see that her conscience does not consider the trauma the unborn are put through and she does not think that slaughter is unconscionable. There is a lot wrong with her thinking. How can she be deeply religious when she ignores those innocent people who are robbed of a chance at life simply because of certain situations they know nothing about?

Clinton added that she has been receiving “a lot of hate” over the issue, and has been compared to slave-owners and Nazis.

We do not hate her. we think she is very misguided and not receiving the correct biblical teaching. We are sad that she has taken this view as it is certainly contradictory to the Christian faith. She does not seem to think that love your neighbor applies to the unborn, but it does. She does not seem to think that love thy neighbor as thyself, applies to the unborn, but it does.

God did not put restrictions on those verses and excluded those people waiting to enter life. She seems to be one of those people who thinks she gets to pick and choose when to apply scripture and when not to. In her bid for human rights, we hope she realizes some day soon that many of those unborn children who have been aborted and are being aborted, are also women. The very women she is fighting to give rights to.

We hope she doesn’t take too long to see the error of her ways

the link to the article


Ubaid, Sumer & the Bible


Scientists seem to always be at a loss when it comes to talking about the origins of ancient people. Too often they simply state that they do not know where certain groups of people come from. In one of his books, which forget which one, WF Albright stated that out of the ancient nations, only Israel knows their origins. The Indians, the Egyptians, The Assyrians, the Germanic tribes and the list goes on,, he stated, do not have any idea how their people and nation came to be.

We find the same situation with Sumer and the Ubaid people. Here is what one ancient encyclopedia has to say about both:

The region of Sumer was long thought to have been first inhabited around 4500 BCE. This date has been contested in recent years, however, and it now thought that human activity in the area began much earlier. The first settlers were not Sumerians but a people of unknown origin whom archaeologists have termed the Ubaid people – from the excavated mound of al-Ubaid where the artifacts were uncovered which first attested to their existence


These people were the first agents of civilization in the region. At what point the people who came to be known as Sumerians entered the area is not known ( both quotes come from

It is accepted that Sumer and subsequent civilizations resided around the Mesopotamia region near or between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers.

Sumer was the southernmost region of ancient Mesopotamia (modern-day Iraq and Kuwait) which is generally considered the cradle of civilization. (Ibid).

And that occupation came about 4500 BC

The region of Sumer was long thought to have been first inhabited around 4500 BCE (Ibid)

We do not agree that the flood took place around 3000 BC as some people place the date. That is just to close for comfort and we would accept an earlier date because we do not actually know when the flood happened. The Bible dating and the human calendar do not follow the same rules and produce competing times. If we attribute the construction of the pyramids at Giza and the Sphinx to the pre-world era, then 3000 BC does not sound too far off.

But dating is subjective and not always as accurate as we would like it to be. So for now we will go with the 4500 BC date knowing it could and should be revised. Scientists may not know much about the Ubaid people, we will skip the Sumerians for now, believers can find a clue to their identity and source by reading two passages of scripture.

Ge 11:1 Now the whole world had one language  and a common speech.
Ge 11:2 As men moved eastward, they found a plain in Shinar and settled there (NIV)

This particular NIV version places Shinar in the fertile Crescent at Babylon, which seems right as the second passage of scripture mentions who founded that city:

Ge 10:8 Cush was the father of Nimrod, who grew to be a mighty warrior on the earth.
Ge 10:9 He was a mighty hunter before the LORD; that is why it is said, “Like Nimrod, a mighty hunter before the LORD.”
Ge 10:10 The first centers of his kingdom were Babylon, Erech, Akkad and Calneh, in  Shinar. 
Ge 10:11 From that land he went to Assyria, where he built Nineveh,  Rehoboth Ir,  Calah
Ge 10:12 and Resen, which is between Nineveh and Calah; that is the great city

From what we can deduce, given help from archaeology, the Ubaid people were probably the one world, one language civilization that got divided by God and scattered throughout the earth. City building would not be a new idea for them as in the pre-flood civilization cities were quite common. Cain built a city and we cannot be sure how many others followed that example.

From the numerous buried cities found around the world and mysterious buildings that remain, it seems that quite a few people followed Cain’s example. It is also possible that Cain was not the first to build a city and he was the one who followed one of his brothers’ or more example. Thus, it was not impossible or out of the capability of Nimrod and the probably Ubaid people to build the cities in that list.

The ancient encyclopedia backs that point up with the following:

Whoever these people were, they had already moved from a hunter-gatherer society to an agrarian one prior to 5000 BCE. Excavations from al-Ubaid and other sites throughout southern Iraq have uncovered stone tools from the Ubaid people such as hoes, knives, and adzes and clay artifacts which included sickles, bricks, painted pottery, and figurines.

These people were the first agents of civilization in the region. (Ibid)

That encyclopedia is supported by the History Channels section on Sumer. That channel says:

This early population—known as the Ubaid people—was notable for strides in the development of civilization such as farming and raising cattle, weaving textiles, working with carpentry and pottery, and even enjoying beer. Villages and towns were built around Ubaid farming communitie


Architecture on a grand scale is generally credited to have begun under the Sumerians, with religious structures dating back to 3400 B.C., although it appears that the basics of the structures began in the Ubaid period as far back as 5200 B.C. and were improved upon through the centuries. The buildings are noted for their arched doorways and flat roofs.

Elaborate construction, such as terra cotta ornamentation with bronze accents, complicated mosaics, imposing brick columns and sophisticated mural paintings all reveal the society’s technical sophistication (

Unless something changes, we are quite confident in our identification of the Ubaid people as the civilization that built the Tower of Babel and got itself divided.

According to the scholar Samuel Noah Kramer, “The first ruler of Sumer, whose deeds are recorded, if only in the briefest kind of statement, is a king by the name of Etana of Kish, who may have come to the throne quite early in the third millennium B.C. In the King List he is described as he who stabilized all the lands” (The Sumerians, 43). The Sumerian King List is a cuneiform document, written by a scribe of the city of Lagash, sometime around 2100 BCE which lists all of the kings of the region, and their accomplishments, in an attempt to show continuity of order in society dating back to the beginning of civilization (

We are not going to talk much about the Sumerian King’s list except to say that it provides evidence for the global flood. Also, how else would the author of that list know about pre-flood rulers if there was no connection to Noah and his family? There is no  reason to create a false list to justify a ruler’s reign. Once it was found to be false, the ruler’s validity would be undermined and his authority destroyed or seriously weakened.

it is the following that we will contend with

The Sumerian language is the oldest linguistic record. It first appeared in archaeological records around 3100 B.C. and dominated Mesopotamia for the next thousand years. It was mostly replaced by Akkadian around 2000 B.C. but held on as a written language in cuneiform for another 2,000 years. (

It may be the oldest linguistic record but we highly doubt that. Since we do not know what language the post flood one world civilization spoke, no one can truly claim that Sumerian is the oldest. The archaeologists’ inabililty to find inscriptions or written records from the Ubaid people doe snot mean that they did not write their language. Also, since we do not know what language they spoke, how would we recognize it if it was discovered?

With dating as flexible as it is, the language examples from the Ubaid nation could easily be attributed to another society. What we are sure of, is that the one world society or the Ubaids, spoke the same language as the pre-flood world. Noah and his family would have brought it with them when  they survived the ark. Since we cannot determine what language the pre-flood civilization spoke, we can never truly identify the true beginning language of the world.

Ge 11:7 Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.”
Ge 11:8 So the LORD scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city.

While scientists think that there is a  link holding all the languages in the world to some hierarchical structure, this passage seems to go against that idea. Yes, some languages do descend from other ones, but that cannot be said for all languages of the world.

Currently, about 7,000 languages are spoken around the world. They belong to different language families and their origins date back thousands of years ago. Researchers are still finding it difficult to determine which language is the oldest. However, the earliest written languages on record are the cuneiform script that was discovered in Mesopotamia that dates back to 8th millennium BC (


Origins of language
The origins of human language will perhaps remain for ever obscure. By contrast the origin of individual languages has been the subject of very precise study over the past two centuries.

There are about 5000 languages spoken in the world today (a third of them in Africa), but scholars group them together into relatively few families – probably less than twenty. Languages are linked to each other by shared words or sounds or grammatical constructions. The theory is that the members of each linguistic group have descended from one language, a common ancestor. In many cases that original language is judged by the experts to have been spoken in surprisingly recent times – as little as a few thousand years ago. (

Scientists think that there is one mother language but we doubt that thinking. When we read the passage about God confusing the languages, it does not give us details of how exactly he did it. But from what evidence we have seen and God’s power, it is more likely that God made 20, more or less, new languages. We are not even sure if he kept the original pre-flood tongue. The Bible does not tell us.
We cannot be sure but it seems highly unlikely that he used a process such as the one described by scientists. The result was instantaneous and affected different numbers of different groups all with their own portion of the then population. In other words, the establishment of the many different languages was a product of God’s supernatural power, like he displayed at creation. He created the new tongues out of nothing.
He didn’t use a process at creation so why start now? We will conclude, that the people known as the Sumerians were the group that stayed behind and watched their once brethren depart to other lands. Notice that God did not take away their memories and the Sumerians were able to build, write, communicate and much more. They made fine achievements, even being credited with inventing the wheel, as were all the other nations.
We also forget which book Graham Hancock wrote it in, but in his searches, he claimed to have found a group of people that were afraid to build their homes on the flat plain. They built them in the hills and on the sides of mountains. He concluded that this particular group of people were afraid of a flood. If true, this would bring us a little more evidence for the global deluge.
It is also possible that this group thought a lot like the ancient Koreans, who saw how little farm land they had possession of and decided to build their homes on the hills and sides of mountains to preserve the farmland for crops.
As we study the Bible, these little insignificant passages provide us with a large amount of information. We should not be too quick to dismiss them or take the word of unbelieving scientists who ignore scriptures and the answers or clues it provides. As we read those early chapters of Genesis and the life of Abraham, we get the origins for a lot of nations. We know more than the scientists and ancients about the origins of these old nations.
Getting knowledge is something that Solomon encouraged in Proverbs. To be able to handle apologetics correctly, we need to know these historical details. They may save us a lot of embarrassment. Intelligence and knowledge are not wrong to have and help us preserve our faith as well as teach our children the facts that they need to know to preserve theirs.

A Diversity Strategy is Not Biblical

We are going to step out of our normal sources today and go to Yahoo news to talk about an issue that needs to be addressed. The full story is found at the following link:

Tucker Carlson Has No Idea How Diversity Strengthens America

We disagree with the title even though we have not seen Mr. Tucker’s program on the issue. Enough of his words were quoted and enough information was placed in the article to tell us that the author has no real idea about leadership, strength of society and much more. If you read the comment section beneath the article, you will see that many people agree with that assessment.

The opinionated host on Friday questioned how diversity strengthens the U.S. while also suggesting that diversity weakens the workplace, marriages and the military.

We do not agree with his inclusion of marriage in that list. Many international marriages work but if he was talking about the variety of ways marriage is conducted today, for example- same-sex, trios, common law and other varieties, then we can see his point. Diversity in the function of marriage erases right and wrong and allows evil to ruin society through designated family units.

Diversity does not strengthen marriage nor does it help society. You will notice that God agrees with that point. He limited marriage to be between a man and a woman only. Every other diverse option is sin, not allowed and considered evil. To have a strong society you cannot break the institutional rules that have upheld every society for millennia.

Carlson is apparently ignoring the many benefits of diversity: Studies show that diverse groups are more innovative and creative, diverse groups encourage people to think on a global level, and diversity makes America’s workforce and militaries more competitive.

First, when authors state the word ‘studies’ or use words like all scientists, all scholars, etc., generically it is a red flag. Questions should arise like- what studies in particular? Who conducted them? Are they credible, objective, fair? and many more similar questions. If you do not know, studies can be very biased and conducted to support a particular viewpoint or ideology.

Second, the author of that article is ignoring certain factors involved when diversified groups get together. As some of the commentators pointed out, those diverse groups that succeed usually have things in common. They are not using their nationalities to divide the group but act like adults and work together for a common cause.

It isn’t diversity that is bringing the success of those groups. it is the knowledge, character, integrity and behavior of those involved that bring success. You will notice that the author of that article does not mention those diverse groups that did not fail. It is a very one-sided and distorted argument.

Third, you will see in the Bible where God lists the criteria for different offices and positions. if you haven’t check them out. You will notice one word missing from the lists– diversity. That is because God has kept all positions open to all people of all nationalities.  He also leaves open a option for himself. He gets to select who obtains which position in his church.

In the selection of a replacement disciple for Judas, diversity was not on the list of requirements. A list was drawn up but God had the final say on who filled that empty slot. You will notice that God did not pick a gentile just because there were no gentiles in the group of disciples. He picked the most qualified man who fit the God-inspired requirements.

Studies are fallible and selective. They need to be taken with a grain of salt.

A 2017 analysis on diversity in the armed services noted that racial and gender diversity is “associated with better creative problem solving, innovation and improved decisionmaking.”

“Those who argue for diversity initiatives in the military argue that a more diverse force has the potential to be more efficient and flexible, able to meet a broader set of challenges,” the analysis says.

See our arguments above.One additional point, whether the supporters of diversity agree with it or not, this trend to be more diverse practices discrimination. It will leave out the top qualified candidate while trying to reach a very bad goal– diversity.  So what if there is an all white group or an all black one, if it is successful, you do not mess with what is working.

This is something computer programmers ignore every time they update a computer operating system or program. They screw with what works and make the system or program worse than it was before. The trend to erase lines or the scroll bars on the side of the screen just because they do not look good is annoying and frustrating. How can you see what you are doing and do it correctly when you can’t find what you need?

If it isn’t broken, you do not fix it. This is something a lot of people have not learned and we see evidence of that forgotton lesson in that article among others.

In the military, we sometimes add tactical necessity to the mix — the Marine Lioness program is an example,” Forsling wrote in 2015, referencing a program that used female Marines to collect intel from local Iraqi women.

This is just common sense and not a diversity triumph. Non-military people have known this for years and God has stated that the older widows and women teach the younger women. That quoted strategy is not new or groundbreaking. it is also a depends situation. Sometimes women do not trust other women and open up to certain types of men more easily.

The article goes into the usual modern journalistic bent by quoting a lot of tweets. How tweets became credible sources we will never know or accept. We stopped reading at that point as there was nothing of value gven in the rest of that article. How could there be? The article missed the point about how leadership and success work.

That author’s whole point was to get people to accept and obtain diversity for the sake of having diversity. That strategy is a failure strategy. When we turn to the Bible to see God’s example, not once did he say go for diversity. If the believer and the church live the Christian life right, diversity will come. That is because God’s offices are open to just about anyone. God does place limitations on who is to occupy authority positions which again tells us that diversity is not God’s goal or strategy.

His goal and strategy is about the quality of people who follow him. Do they obey his word in all areas of life? Do they seek to have the fruits of the spirit in their character and behavior? Do they seek wisdom, knowledge, understanding, patience, justice and mercy? Not the human definition  but God’s. Do they abide by the standards of right and wrong, good and evil and morality and immorality? Again these are God’s standards not subjectively constructed human ones.

Diversity does not bring God’s way with it. As you can see by the daily newscasts sin permeates human diversity and it needs to be redeemed by Christ. Trying to get diversity into the church by following secular ideas will not work. The people placed in charge must be selected by God, be qualified and live the life that Christ wants. The color of their skin does not matter. Their nationality does not matter. It is the spiritual quality of the person that matters.

We do not play spiritual games with this either. Selection has to be honest, biblical and with God’s direction. The church cannot afford to follow the world when it creates these seemingly safe strategies. They need to look beyond the surface to see the spiritual reality that lies underneath. If it isn’t of God, do not touch it or adopt it.

Diversity, in the secular version, brings false religions, bad attitudes, hatred, misplaced loyalty, and other sins to the group. They do not bring God’s truth or the right way to accomplish any objective. Bias has a way of influencing the decisions of diverse groups. The church must set the example of the right wy to lead and use groups or the secular world will remain lost and stumbling in the dark, blinded by sin.

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