Quotes On Science 3

#1. The theist is persuaded that while nothing that contradicts science is likely to be true, still nothing that stops with science can be the whole truth. –Gordon W. Allport, The Individual and His Religion

This is just not true. The theist, if they are true believers, believe that anything, including science, that disagrees with the Bible is wrong. People have elevated the different research fields of science to levels of superiority and ultimate authority yet ignore the fact that those fields are populated and led by fallible humans who do not know very much and have no way of discovering the missing information.

Again we cite the recent ‘Neanderthals built underground rings’ article as evidence for this statement. Scientists have no way of verifying that claim nor supporting that credit. Science is not holding magical powers which allows it to see into the past and declare what was what. It is limited by the facts that it is a created field of study and the people populating it are without divine attributes which would grant them special knowledge about everything.

Science possesses nothing of what God possesses thus its insight is hampered by the sin and corruption that entered into the world at Adam’s sin and by the personal beliefs of those who work in it. Science and its member are in need of a Savior and are not the Messiah the Bible speaks about thus anything that contradicts it may be and usually is true and no one sins if they contradict or reject the conclusions and findings of scientists unless they are contradicting the truth.

Science is not God nor a god though far too many people in and out of religious belief promote it to such status.

#2. Science can only ascertain what is, but not what should be, and outside of its domain value judgments of all kinds remain necessary. –Albert Einstein, Out of My Later Years

What Mr. Einstein is saying is that the research fields of science do not possess any morality, ethics, sense of right and wrong and cannot teach the world those standards. Those standards must be brought in to govern those fields of research as science without them lead us to horrific scientific inquiry and experimentation Science without God’s ways, the fruits of the spirit and so on, is far more dangerous than people think.

With nothing guiding its people and their work, with nothing setting boundaries for the same and with nothing telling them what is right or wrong then anything is right and no one can complain or discipline those who go too far in their scientific work. Science needs to be monitored by objective morals, ethics and standards and those only come from God. Anything is else is just subjective and easily ignored and overturned when the situation calls for it.

Without the boundaries of ethics, morality and right and wrong, anything goes and nothing is safe even in scientific work. This is why the removal of God is such a dangerous step to take. When you remove God you remove those boundaries and oversight and people are free to put into practice and reality whatever their imaginations conjure up and they can do so without fear of punishment or discipline. That is not science but insanity.

#3. I am sorry to say that there is too much point to the wisecrack that life is extinct on other planets because their scientists were more advanced than ours. –John F. Kennedy

When we let scientist work unfettered, it is not life they bring but destruction to society and civilization. Mr. Kennedy’s words are poignant and on target as we think back on all those experiments upon people who could not defend themselves, let alone say ‘no’ to those who were conducting the experiments. It doesn’t matter how much scientific supporters claim how good their fields of research are, sin is sin and sin destroys especially when given a free hand to do whatever it pleases. Should we point to the invention of the nuclear bomb or rockets and other weapons that kill as evidence? Why not as those inventions are not overshadowed by anything good science claims it has accomplished.

Science has killed more people than the atheist claims God has taken from this earth.

#4. The means by which we live have outdistanced the ends for which we live. Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men.–Martin Luther King, Jr., Strength to Love

Another good observation as it tells it like it is. Science is filled with very misguided men and women who think that ‘all science is good science’ and that is far from the truth. People have left God and adopted scientific thinking but since science has no morality, no direction, no ethical  or right and wrong standard, the switch is not rational or logical.

Science is in need of help and has nothing to offer the world except knowledge which in and of itself is not always accurate or true. Science needs God to guide it to the truth and the correct knowledge, it does not possess the means to obtain those goals on its own and without that aid.No matter how hard science strives to obtain the truth it is work in vain as the truth is beyond that field and out of its reach.

While science has its value, it undermines that value and devalues itself when it opts not to take Jesus up on is words and follow the Holy Spirit to the truth.It is arrogant and foolish to think one can get to the truth on their own and while under the influence and deception of evil. Saying evil does not exist does not change that situation. Only if science and its scientists, etc., humble themselves and say they can’t do it will they find the solution to their quests.

Being misguided does not enable a person to find the truth or humbly accept it. It jut allows them to be misled and falsely claim they have found the truth.

Quotes On Science 2

#1. To pursue science is not to disparage the things of the spirit. In fact, to pursue science rightly is to furnish a framework on which the spirit may rise. –Vannevar Bush, speech at Massachusetts Institute

This can only be true if science was allowing itself to be guided by what was right, true and honest and since most of the member of the scientific community have shoved God out the back door and invited evil in the front, that idea expressed in that quote is impossible. Science cannot provide any sort of framework for the spirit when it presents lies instead of the truth.

The key word in that quote comes right after the word ;science’ and to keep it in context we will use more than one word ‘to pursue science rightly‘. This sounds good but the problem arise when we understand that the key word ‘rightly’ can be very subjective. Whose idea of ‘rightly’ is going to be used and is it the right definition of the word?

If someone decide to use the secular definition then science loses at the get go because the secular definition of the word ‘rightly’ does not include God and he i the only one who can direct that field to do things rightly. Secularists do not own the field of science and have no authority to declare which definition of that word is to be used.

Only the believer can bring the correct definition to that field and set it on the right path to follow.

#2.The grand aim of all science is to cover the greatest number of empirical facts by logical deduction from the smallest number of hypotheses. –Albert Einstein

And we see that taking place as Stephen Hawking and other physicists try to create a Grand Theory of Everything. Little did Einstein and little do other physicists like Hawking know, is that we already have the smallest amount of hypothesis to cover the greatest number of empirical facts. It is not really a hypothesis but the truth and it starts with ‘In the beginning God…’

Secular scientists wastes everyone’ and their own time trying to be redundant and create something that already exists. But then those who do not believe, and this includes all stripes of evolutionary thought, waste resource, money and time by rejecting the truth and pursuing alternative and false ideas. The super collider is a great example as evolutionists and big bang theorists waste billions of dollars on a machine that cannot produce any answers or even the truth all the while people go to bed hungry and thirsty every night because they have no food, no employment no wells and so on.

Alternative thinking scientists do not help others but are as selfish and self-serving as the LGBT community.

#3. Modern man worships at the temple of science, but science tells him only what is possible, not what is right. –Milton S. Eisenhower

This is another key observation about science. It tells us that the field of scientific research is in need of ethical,moral and right and wrong standards to guide its work, behavior and thinking. The research fields of science do not possess these attributes or characteristics and they need to be imported from a greater source than it. The only greater source is God and the Bible. All human sources are equal and one source is not greater than any other human source.

Morals, ethics and right and wrong must come from one that is greatest of all and who is ethical, holy, moral and right.Science needs to be guided by the correct use of biblical teaching or it is of no value to anyone. Without that guidance science is as blind and deceived as anyone or any other aspect of life and is only the blind leading the blind.

God is the go to and only authority that exists and it is impossible for science to replace him.

#4. A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it. –Max Planck, Scientific Autobiography

What can we say he is correct. Scientific truth is not scientific truth because it is true but because a majority of people accept that idea until a better one comes along. Eilat Mazar has stated something similar to this in her book Discovering the Solomonic Walls In Jerusalem when she said:

Indeed, as in any scientific field, conclusions derived from archaeological analysis will hold till better ones come along and replace them (pg. 10)

Truth is non-existent in science unless it is forced upon that field by a group of people tired from hearing all the assumptions, conjectures, leaps to conclusions and so on made by those scientists who pursue their own ideas instead of the truth. The latest story about neanderthals building some mysterious rings underground is a prime example of this. Science is more ridiculous than accurate.

If a believer wants truth, then they need to follow the Holy Spirit to the truth, and that does not restrict the believer to just biblical knowledge but the truth that lies in all areas of life- history, science, archaeology, math, drama and so on.

13However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth;

All truth means all truth and science does not have that access to or possession of the truth when it ignores the Holy Spirit.

#5. …the scientific trilogy: observation, hypothesis, experiment. –Morag Coate

Ye but if this trilogy is based upon some unknown error in the process then what is concluded is in error even though the scientist may be unaware he made a mistake somewhere in putting the experiment together. This trilogy is not infallible and can be tricked very easily or misled  or it even may miss errors in the process of setting up the experiment. This trilogy is also not omniscient where it knows all things and can spot the truth being replaced by a mistake, nor can it stop personal preference being read into what is being studied and concluded.

It is a very faulty trilogy to base one’s life work upon.

Quotes On Science

We turn our series to the topic of science and look at what some people say about that subject with commentary pointing out the truth and helping people see God.

#1. There is nothing in science which teaches the origin of anything at all. -Lord Kelvin

This about says it all. Lord Kelvin saw it centuries ago and many believers today see it but those who refuse to accept the truth about science still turn a blind eye to such observations. Anything about origins which is taught or reported by secular scientists is all read into what is discovered, not taken out of the discovery. The scientific idea of origins is all made up because the unbelieving scientists does not want to humble themselves and believe God, let alone acknowledge that he exists.

But we should remind people that the war against evolution is not against the flesh and blood unbelieving messenger but the evil forces which influence and direct those humans thinking and efforts. We need to make sure we target the correct enemy thereby avoiding turning unbelieving scientists off from the gospel and Jesus.

#2.Religion needs science, to protect it from religion ‘s greatest danger, superstition. –Edgar J. Goodspeed, Four Pillars of Democracy

But the actual science that Christianity needs is not the secular form which lies and directs people away from the truth. Christianity is not a superstitious faith but it does need to avoid false tales about Christ and the biblical history. Secular science cannot do this for it adds into the mix more false tales and erroneous theories and removes people’s eyes from the truth of Genesis 1.

Christianity is a faith of truth because both God and Jesus are truth, anything else, like the gospel of Peter for example, needs to be discarded and placed into its proper category and context–fictional writing. We need to properly categorize ancient works as the modern biblical scholar (and by modern we refer to the form of scholarship that has taken place over the past 200 years or so) has failed in doing this.

God’s science stops searching for the answers and the truth once they find it. They do not keep asking questions except to verify that they have found the truth and once that is done that is what they proclaim. God’s scientists do not follow the example set by the secular branch of that field but follow God’s word  to guide their behavior, their theories, their announcements.

#3. As soon as questions of will or decision arise, human science is at a loss. –Noam Chomsky

The limitations of the field of science should be a clue to the whole world that that field is unqualified for the  status of ultimate or any form of authority. Those limitations should warn everyone that science is subject to erroneous thinking by even the most qualified scientist and that the conclusions produced are suspect instead of allowing them to be accepted as gospel.

Then Christians need to apply those bible verses that describe sinful behavior and thought to the field of science to keep that research field and its members in proper perspective. The believer should realize that if a scientist  or science teacher teaches something that contradicts the Bible then those people are the false teachers presenting false teaching not the Bible.

Science is not the authority over God’s word, nor does it know more than the Bible or God. The believer needs to remember this fact as well when studying that subject. The believer needs to keep science in its proper place. it is a created field of research operated by limited, fallible, unknowing, subjective, corrupt, sinful human beings who do not know the truth nor seek it while the Bible is written by the only infallible, holy, all-knowing, unlimited and uncorrupted God who knows what actually took place in the beginning and throughout history.

When believers get the right perspective, then they will have fewer problems in believing and accepting the Bible and its content and their faith should strengthen. Anything else and their faith will become weak and make them vulnerable to evil attacks.

#4. We are a scientific civilization. That means a civilization in which knowledge and its integrity are crucial. Science is only a Latin word for knowledge . . . Knowledge is our destiny.– Bronowski, in Carl Sagan, The Dragons of Eden

Science may mean knowledge but it does not own a monopoly on that endeavor or word. Knowledge comes from many other sources other than science and science is not the final word on what is true or false knowledge. Science is merely one little source for knowledge and it is vulnerable to error and accepting lies and faulty thought just like any other source which produces knowledge.

Science is not immune from discovering false ideas and accepting them as believers well know. It is not divine nor supreme in anything and cannot have the last word on any topic because of its subjectivity and vulnerability to being misled.

#5.Science is wonderfully equipped to answer the question how but it gets terribly confused when you ask the question why– Erwin Chargraff, Professor of Biological Chemistry, Columbia University, Columbia Forum, summer, 1969

Science may even get the ‘how’ wrong as it is far too subjective of a field to be able to fully determine what took place. This is evident in its feeble attempts to describe how our origins took place. If false thinking and ideas get into science then it has no hope of describing how something happened. If the answers given by science are lies then they really are not answers and science has not discovered how something was done.

We cannot blindly accept the answer of science because false thinking and ideas have entered that field and the truth has been shown the exit.The truth and correct answer are not a priority of scientific inquiry thus the believer needs to be skeptical of anything scientists claim and say. The secular scientist does not have the spirit of truth guiding them to the truth. They have decided to follow a different guide to a different answer.

Right & Wrong 2

I leave this rule for others when I’m dead, Be always sure you are right then go ahead. –Davy Crockett, Autobiography

Yet how can a person know they are right when the standard of right and wrong has been obliterated by the demand for ‘rights’? Or how can a person be sure they are right when God’s word is declared null and void by those who are supposed to be representing God and his will on this earth?

But Mr. Crockett is correct here. Too many people in this modern age THINK they are correct and go about destroying families, organizations and so on because they have decided that their subjective ideas trump every one else’s subjective ideas of what is right and wrong. They think they are correct and do not listen to any constructive criticism or input that may alter their well-being, or hurt their feelings because they have been shown to be in error.

They would rather have the God who has power over life and death to be seen as wrong than humble themselves and correct their error-filled ways and thinking. Try to wrap your heads around that one. Here they are puny and non-powerful human beings, fallible and unable to escape the conditions God has set for them on this earth, trying to puff themselves up and make themselves seem important by saying that the all-powerful, all-knowing, all supreme God is in error and that their small minds know better than he.

It is bad enough when unbelievers do this but when those who claim to be God’s follower and received salvation from Jesus do this then there is a major problem. The church cannot function as Jesus wants when the church ignores God’s standards of right and wrong and pursue the latter half of that standard. The church is not promoting God’s ways but promoting the ways of evil and that is a terrible mistake to make.

If the church and its members want to make sure they are right first, then they need to humble themselves and make sure they are following the Holy Spirit to the truth. There is no other way to do this. It certainly cannot be done when the church ignores God’s standard of right and wrong and seeks to appease those who refuse to follow God’s rules.

That last attitude is also unfair as so many believers in the church seek to follow God’s rules and yet they see these unrepentant sinners welcomed with open arms even though they have not been made new creatures in Christ. God is not an unfair God and his rules apply to all, no matter how rich or poor. For the church to make sure they are right, they need to check their beliefs, and behavior against the real meaning of God’s commands and instructions They need to know they are doing it right and not think they are.

. If it is not right, do not do it; if it is not true, do not say it. –Marcus Aurelius Antoninus

Jesus and God said the same thing first and in better words but the meaning is not lost here. Paul tells us not to lie to each other, Jesus tells us to speak the truth and God commanded that we do not lie. How many times does it have to be said before the church and its members get the message? God has laid out the path we are to follow and he has provided the correct instructions in order for us to stay on that path, we are not obeying nor staying on God’s path if we ignore those instructions and replace them with our own ideas and desires.

Nor our we staying on that path when we let others do the same thing- replace God’s ways and rules with their own. Right and wrong do not submit themselves to ‘rights’ or ‘doing our own thing’. Right and wrong exist for a reason and we need to pay attention to that reason if we want to be the light to the dark world that Jesus wants and if we want to see heaven.

“Rights’ cannot save a person from sin or evil but it does allow a person to continue to be imprisoned by sin and evil.The church needs to follow God’s right and wrong and teach that not jump on the ‘rights’ bandwagon and abandoned God and his ways because more seats will be in the pews on Sunday. God wants obedient followers, not fakes and remember he will separate the wheat from the chaff so the church needs to work to have wheat in its membership not chaff.

Parents need to train their children to follow God’s standard of right and wrong if they do not want to lose their offspring when they enter secular institutions or make the wrong friends.Teaching children and church members the truth and the correct standards is the only way for the believer to go. Forget about rights and work on right and wrong, doing what is right and avoiding what is wrong will save a person and family from a lot of problems throughout the years.

Just make sure you know you have the correct standard and are teaching it correctly.

Right & Wrong

We are going to start a new series, and it may be a long one, and throughout we will be looking at key quotes on a couple of subjects. The quotes are taken from one of our resources, which we purchased long ago, called Stories for preachers & Teachers. The first set if we get past one post will deal with the title issue and we will start off with one that approx. 500 years later seems quite appropriate

. I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible you may be mistaken.– Oliver Cromwell, letter to the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland, 3 Aug 1650

It seems that the church of Scotland is  consistent in its decision-making. We are not sure what Mr. Cromwell is referring to but these words seem to hit home as the Church has recently allowed its ministers to participate in same-sex marriages. Here is a link to the story:


The Church of Scotland’s highest law-making body has voted to allow its ministers to be in same-sex marriages.

The church’s general assembly, which opened in Edinburgh on Saturday, voted in favour of extending a law passed last May that permits ministers to be in same-sex civil partnerships.The decision, after years of deliberation, means the church maintains the traditional view marriage as between a man and woman, but allows individual congregations to “opt out” if they wish to appoint a minister or deacon in a same-sex marriage or civil partnership.

Clearly the Church of Scotland needs to hear Mr. Cromwell’s words and re-think its decision as well as its power of rational thought.This trend to refuse to say ‘no’ to the homosexual community and make a stand for God has us thinking that those who call themselves Christians do not want to be persecuted for their faith or take the criticism that comes when one tells an unrepentant sinner these are the rules and you must abide by them.

Those who claim to follow Christ seem to want the easy road and make everyone feel good instead of standing firm with God when opposition strikes. In an age where ‘rights’ have removed ‘right and wrong’ the church and its members need to stand up and speak against this trend letting everyone know that they do not have the ‘right’ to do as they please and that ‘right and wrong’ still exist even if those unrepentant sinners reject that standard.

We like what Abraham Lincoln once said, and it is our second quote for this article–

My concern is not whether God is on our side; my great concern is to be on God’s  side, for God is always right.– Abraham Lincoln

This should be the honest concern and desire of all believers. Letting sin into the church or saying that God is wrong or that the Bible is in error should never enter the minds of those who claim to be Christians and follow God. They should be making sure that they are on God’s side and following his ways correctly especially when they have to deal with those who do not want to follow God’s rules and enter into the church.

The believer needs to remember that it is God’s church and he has not changed his rules nor has he given any human authority to alter or remove his rules governing that institution.The Church of Scotland needs to learn this fact and reverse their decisions and get their ruling bodies in line with God and his word if they want to be effective for Jesus.

In fact, all church denominations need to do this if they want to be the light unto a dark world. Being the light does not include letting darkness in to douse that light.The world needs the church to continue to broadcast God’s standard of right and wrong and not entertain the thought of altering it just because someone who doesn’t believe doesn’t like the standard.

No one is helped when you alter the standard of right and wrong. No one can seek forgiveness of their sins if they think they are not doing anything wrong. The Church of Scotland, and the church in general, are not doing anyone any favors when they make these types of decisions. They are hurting them and keeping the unbeliever trapped in sin and not helping the unrepentant sinner to salvation when they do these types of actions. This i snot what the church is all about and it is not how Christ wants his church to function.

Yes Jesus is love BUT he never changed God’s standard of right and wrong nor told sinners they could remain in their sins and still follow him. Love rescues and the church is not rescuing when we change the rules to allow people to avoid following the rules.

The church also needs to be told when it is doing wrong as well.

In The News 9

#1. It Is Nice To Hearhttp://www.christianpost.com/news/wales-archbishop-apologizes-gay-christians-church-prejudice-but-cant-support-gay-marriage-161117/

The Archbishop of Wales said in an open letter to the LGBT community that while the Church can’t support same-sex marriage, he apologized for what he called the persecution and prejudice they have faced.

“We, as bishops of the Anglican Communion, mindful of the results of our consultation and the Statement of the Primates of the Anglican Communion, and of all our members, including those who are gay and lesbian, do not feel that we can support at this time a move to change the discipline of the Church in Wales with respect to the teaching on marriage, nor can we permit the celebration of public liturgies of blessing for same-sex unions,” Barry Morgan said in a statement released Wednesday.

While we do not agree with this trend to apologize for something someone else has done, it is good to hear a church leader take the right stand and say ‘no’ to the LGBT community.

He noted that despite the Church’s decision not to condone gay marriage or civil partnerships, “we commit ourselves as bishops to work for a Church in which you can be fully affirmed as equal disciples of Jesus Christ or seekers after truth.”

Morgan also stated that the “pain and tensions” surrounding the debate about human sexuality in the Church will not go away, but insisted that Christians are called to live “in love and charity with one another,” and to follow the example of Jesus to respond with “grace and as much accommodation as possible” to all people.

This we do not like. Unrepentant sinners cannot become ‘equal disciples’ until they repent of their sins and ‘following the example of Jesus’ means not accepting unrepentant sinners into the church. People who call themselves Christians really need to understand what it means to follow Jesus. They need a full picture of Jesus not just the feel good version

#2. The Very Problem With Secular Sciencehttp://www.christianpost.com/news/scientists-creating-human-animal-embryos-raises-ethical-concerns-164358/

Some scientists in the United States are working to make embryos that are part human, part animal in an attempt to save the lives of people suffering from various diseases. But other scientists warn that such experiments could damage people’s sense of humanity, NPR reports.

It seeks to be free from oversight and restriction. Though as you can see by that quote not all scientists think that ‘all science is good science’ there are enough out there who do and that is the problem.Science and scientists need to be regulated and have strict morals and ethical codes governing their work and behavior. Absolute power corrupts absolutely and science is not immune to this fact.

#3. Insanity 1 http://www.christianpost.com/news/giant-food-security-guard-arrested-for-stopping-transgender-from-entering-womens-bathroom-164402/

A security guard at a Northeast D.C. Giant Food grocery store was arrested for assault Wednesday and accused of trying to stop a transgender woman from using the women’s restroom in the store.

The incident happened as the customer, Eboni Belcher, was attempting to go inside the restroom. Once inside, the security guard, Francine Jones, reportedly followed the customer and used physical force to escort the customer out of the restroom, leading to an altercation.

No not the security guard but the arrest of that person. Since when did transgenders become a protected ‘species’? People who cannot accept the truth about themselves are to be rebuked not protected like some rare animal about to go into extinction.Transgenders need help not special rights.

#4. Insanity 2http://www.christianpost.com/news/pro-gay-children-recruited-transgender-164404/

Youth Trans Critical Professionals, a group of “psychologists, social workers, doctors, medical ethicists, and academics” who identify as “pro-gay-rights” and “left-leaning,” say vulnerable children are being recruited online to believe they are transgender and mental health professionals are affirming the belief of these victims.

“We are alarmed by the trend among mental health professionals to affirm a young person’s self-diagnosis as transgender with minimal exploration. In many cases, these young people come to identify as trans after binges on social media sites such as tumblr, reddit, or YouTube. There is evidence that vulnerable young people are being actively recruited and coached on such sites to believe that they are trans,” said the group on their website.

If true, then our children our in trouble. It is a good article and it should be read especially the following quote:

“In several states, there is now legislation on the books forbidding therapists to engage in conversion therapy. While the sentiment behind this legislation is laudable, in some cases, it is being interpreted to mean that therapists cannot explore gender identity with a youth who is professing to be trans. This would mean we can’t ask why; we can’t explore underlying mental health issues; we can’t consider the symbolic nature of the gender dysphoria; and we can’t look at possible confounding issues such as social media use or social contagion,” the professional said while urging their colleagues to begin speaking out.

To combat this, start with prayer and wait for the correct direction to take. Evil has taken another step in destroying young people and the church is out of the loop in stopping this destruction. Time for individual churches to stop hiring youth ministers who want to be cool and only play games and obtain those who are spiritually mature who can lead the youth to a real faith in Christ.

#5. Insanity 3-http://www.christianpost.com/news/canada-may-ban-anti-transgender-speech-with-2-years-in-prison-164382/

Canada’s Liberal Party government led by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has introduced a bill that would ban transgender discrimination, including both gender identity and gender expression, with up to two years in prison for violators.

The bill seeks to amend the Canadian Criminal Code to expand existing “hate speech” prohibitions to include any public speech or communication that “promotes hatred” on the basis of “gender identity” or “gender expression,” and also the Canadian Human Rights Act, to cover transgender people.

Yes let’s fight discrimination,bullying and other sinful practices by using sinful practices, discrimination and bullying. This bill is insane and makes one wonder why such a small group of people deserve such protection? Trashing right and wrong destroys a society not builds it up.Clearly Trudeau and other people do not grasp the tragedy of the confusion they are protecting. These laws do not help the transgender nor anyone else.

A Study on Liberty 4

This should be the last part addressing Mr. Tinder’s book Liberty: Rethinking an Imperiled Ideal.

#1. The consequences are plain to see. Christians who ignore truth-seeking or truth-bearing unbelievers violate their own principles. (pg. 21)

This is just not so as there is no such thing as a truth-bearing unbeliever. Jesus made that very clear when he told his disciples, and us via the gospels, that the secular unbelieving world does not have the truth because they do not and cannot accept the spirit of truth who will lead them to all truth.

There may be truth-seeking unbelievers, but the Christian does not take their words as gospel or from God but the truth-seeking unbeliever must learn the truth from the believer and then reject all falsehoods.

The Christian learns the truth from the Holy Spirit and he does not lead believers to those who do not have the truth. By ignoring the words and teachings of those two groups of unbelievers, the Christian does not violate the principles of their faith but fulfill them.

Then while the unbelieving group, organization, philosopher and so on may have bits and pieces of the truth, that possession does not tell the believer that the unbeliever has the truth at all. It warns them that the unbeliever is using those bits and pieces to deceive them The believer needs to be cautious when dealing with those who do not know or follow Christ, even those who claim to follow him yet pursue alternatives to biblical instruction. The latter’s words may be appealing and sound good but they are merely honey set out to trap the bear.

#2. It is the paradox expressed by Lessing where he said that if Giod held before him all truth in one hand and the endless search for truth in the other and asked him to choose, he would choose the endless truth (pg. 21)

That is the statement of someone who does not know God but wants him to be like humans. The author of that paradox does not accept nor realize that God is truth and has all truth and God knows he could not help anyone to the truth if he had to do an endless search for it.

The concept of God described in that quote makes God out to be a sinner in need of a savior because he needs and wants to know the truth. Also, if God is on an endless search for truth, how would he have the time or the ability to help his own creation/

If he does not have the truth then he has nothing to offer humans. Thus the paradox is ridiculous and absurd. It describes a false god who rejects the truth in order to search for the very thing he has rejected. No one in their right minds does such a thing.

This is another reason why science fails people. It does this very thing. Science/scientists reject the truth and then goes on a search for exactly what they rejected, only that scientists look in the wrong places, go down the wrong paths and look for the wrong answers.

Their search for ‘truth’ does not include finding the truth which is also as absurd as that paradox is.

#3. While it is vital to liberty that church and state be separate, it is dangerous to liberty for Christians and non-Christians to be separate. (pg. 25)

What is actually dangerous to liberty is to deny the actual provider of liberty access to government. In other words, church and state cannot be separate unless the church is a false one who seeks to enslave people and not bring them the freedom they need to have a good and safe life.

Why people want to leave governing in the hands of those who have no idea what real liberty is another mystery. We can say that we would need to define what church is and if that word means and includes false ideologies then no we cannot let church and state be united.

The blind leading the blind is not a smart way to govern. Now if the word church means the organization that actually accept and follows Christ then we cannot separate that organization from the state for that group of people are the only ones with the light of Christ leading the way and showing everyone how to live correctly:

Dt 5:31 But you stay here l  with me so that I may give you all the commands, decrees and laws you are to teach them to follow in the land I am giving them to possess.?

Dt 5:32 So be careful to do what the LORD your God has commanded you; do not turn aside to the right or to the left.

Dt 5:33 Walk in all the way that the LORD your God has commanded you, so that you may live and prosper and prolong your days in the land that you will possess

Government was never meant to be sans God’s ways and instructions. The sad fact is that the founding fathers of America were reacting against a national church, one that did not necessarily follow Christ and the truth. In their haste to build a better society, they omitted the one piece of the puzzle that would have given them that better civilization.

You cannot have a better nation when God and his ways are excluded from leading the people and the leaders. No Christian, no politician, no judge should be advocating for separation of church and state nor leave their true religious beliefs out of their decision making and governing.

You do not leave the solution to a good society out of the mix and go your own way. Nor do you do this and then complain that there is something wrong with society and the church or God. You can’t complain when God is not given the chance to set things right.

#4. Writing as a Christian, I shall always try to see whether Christianity sheds light on the questions that arise. But I will also try to see what reason says. (pg. 27)

If Mr. Tinder was a Christian then he would already know what Christianity says and how that it has all the answers to all the questions raised. Christianity is to be the light unto the dark world and the dark world includes reason.

Reason without Christ has nothing to offer anyone and has no answers to the questions raised by the discussion on liberty. Christians are not to go to the deceived, subjective and fallible aspects of life to get their answers for the latter has no answers but leads people to sin and destruction.

We believers will always hear what reason has to say because there are far too many unbelievers and false Christians who use its ideas to answer questions. We do not need to look for what reason may say for we may already know its thoughts because we have been unbelievers before and know what reason does when unguided and the Holy Spirit is kept from influencing its function.

We do need to search for God’s answers though as even Christianity fails in learning the true definitions of terms and the real answers to questions. Too many in the faith opt for pat answers or the denominational line and avoid the hard work to get to the truth thus Christianity is made inferior to secular reason by this laziness.

The secular world, because it does not have the truth nor does it have a way of salvation for eternity for the world, has nothing to offer the world and its answers do not end the discussion but adds more questions to it and keeps people lost instead of bringing them to the truth.

There is a reason why God said not to follow in the counsel of the ungodly and this is one of them—the ungodly are in need of the answers and cannot provide any to anyone.