Something to Think About

This video makes some interesting points about white people in China. But one thing we wanted to point out is that archaeologists use the wrong markers to construct their theories.

Late in the video the narrator says that because the funeral rites and practices changed in one area, the one society who originally practiced must have expanded into the territory of those who didn’t.

While that remains a possibility, it is also possible that the people of the latter society may have had a change of mind, created a fad, or just thought the former society’s practices were just better than theirs.

Changes in funeral practices and other parts of society do not necessarily mean mass migration whereby the migrants conquered those who lived in the land. Here is the video:

Some Recent Discoveries

The first two links take you to archaeological discoveries. Then the third takes you to another evolutionary one that is more of a lie than anything else. Evolutionists create all these fake species without factoring in normal daily life. their conclusions are off because they look at their discoveries with a predetermined conclusion and not true objectivity.

Also, one bone a dinosaur does not make. With science blind to the past, the evolutionist can make anything up that they want people to hear. There is no ancient verification for any of the evolutionary discoveries and that enables the evolutionist to have even more freedom when talking about these and other bone fragments they uncover

https://www.yahoo.com/news/researchers-ancient-rooms-under-jerusalems-western-wall-171010448.html

Israeli researchers on Tuesday unveiled mysterious underground rooms with an unknown function, carved out of the bedrock near where the Second Jewish Temple is believed to have stood two millennia ago.

The discovery was made when Israeli students from a pre-military college were excavating a large, lavish Byzantine-era structure from some 1,400 years ago, below the Western Wall plaza in Jerusalem’s Old City.

Like other sites inhabited for millenia, parts of Jerusalem contain deep layers of archaeology, the result of societies building on top of earlier structures rather that expending resources to clear ruins.

https://www.foxnews.com/science/dead-sea-scrolls-discovery-fragments-thought-to-be-blank-reveal-text

Four Dead Sea Scroll fragments long thought to be blank have revealed their text.

The fragments, which are housed at the University of Manchester in the U.K., shed more light on the famous scrolls. Some 51 fragments were imaged front and back, with six identified for further investigation. Of these, four were found to have readable Hebrew/Aramaic text written in carbon-based ink.

“The most substantial fragment has the remains of four lines of text with 15-16 letters, most of which are only partially preserved, but the word Shabbat (Sabbath) can be clearly read,” explained the University of Manchester

https://www.foxnews.com/science/unusual-toothless-dinosaur-discovered-in-australia

A bone from the dinosaur was discovered by volunteer Jessica Parker during a dig in Victoria in early 2015. Initially thought to be from a pterosaur, the neck bone was studied by experts at Swinburne University who realized that it was from a theropod or meat-eating dinosaur. “The only catch – this ‘meat-eating dinosaur’ probably didn’t eat meat!” said Swinburne paleontologist Dr. Stephen Poropat, in the statement.

THE PERIPLUS OF HANNO

The original of this book is in the Cornell University Library.

There are no known copyright restrictions in  the United States on the use of the text. http://www.archive.org/details/cu31924031441847

THE PERIPLUS OF HANNO

 A VOYAGE OF DISCOVERY DOWN THE WEST AFRICAN COAST,

 BY A CARTHAGINIAN ADMIRAL OF THE FIFTH CENTURY B. C.

 TRANSLATED FROM THE GREEK

BY

WILFRED H. SCHOFF, a. m.

Secretary of the Commercial Museum, Philadelphia

M^ith explanatory passages quoted from numerous authors

PUBLISHED BY THE COMMERCIAL MUSEUM 1912

Copyright 1912 by the Commercial Museum Philadelphia

THE VOYAGE OF HANNO, KING OF THE

CARTHAGINIANS

To the Libyan regions of the earth beyond the Pillars of Hercules,

which he dedicated also in the Temple of Baal, affixing this

1. It pleased the Carthaginians that Hanno should voy-

age outside the Pillars of Hercules, and found cities of the

Libyphoenicians. And he set forth with sixty ships of fifty

oars, and a multitude of men and women, to the number of

thirty thousand, and with wheat and other provisions.

  1. After passing through the Pillars we went on and

sailed for two days’ journey beyond, where we founded the

first city, which we called Thymiaterium ; it lay in the midst

of a great plain.

  1. Sailing thence toward the west we came to Solois, a

promontory of Libya, bristling with trees.

 

  1. Having set up an altar here to Neptune, we proceeded

again, going toward the east for half the day, until we reached

a marsh lying no great way from the sea, thickly grown with

tall reeds. Here also were elephants and other wild beasts

feeding, in great numbers.

 

  1. Going beyond the marsh a day’s journey, we setded

cities by the sea, which we called Caricus Murus, Gytta, Acra,

Melitta and Arambys.

 

  1. Sailing thence we came to the Lixus, a great river

flowing from Libya. By it a wandering people, the Lixitas,

were pasturing their flocks; with whom we remained some

time, becoming friends.

 

  1. Above these folk lived unfriendly ^Ethiopians, dwelling

in a land full of wild beasts, and shut off by great mountains,

from which they say the Lixus flows, and on the mountains

live men of various shapes, cave-dwellers, who, so the Lixitse

say, are fleeter of foot than horses.

 

  1. Taking interpreters from them, we sailed twelve ‘\

‘ days toward the south along a desert, turning thence toward ‘

 

the east one day’s sail. There, within the recess of a bay we

found a small island, having a circuit of fifteen stadia; which

we settled, and called it Cerne. From our journey we judged

it to be situated opposite Carthage ; for the voyage from Car-

thage to the Pillars and thence to Cerne was the same.

 

  1. Thence, sailing by a great river whose name was

Chretes, we came to a lake, which had three islands, larger

than Cerne. Running a day’s sail beyond these, we came to

the end of the lake, above which rose great mountains, peo-

pled by savage men wearing skins of wild beasts, who threw

stones at us and prevented us from landing from our ships.

 

  1. Sailing thence, we came to another river, very great

and broad, which was full of crocodiles and hippopotami.

And then we turned about and went back to Cerne.

 

  1. Thence we sailed toward the south twelve days, fol-

lowing the shore, which was peopled by ^Ethiopians who fled

from us and would not wait. And their speech the Lixitse

who were with us could not understand.

 

1 2. But on the last day we came to great wooded mountains.

The wood of the trees was fragrant, and of various kinds.

 

  1. Sailing around these mountains for two days, we came

to an immense opening of the sea, from either side of which

there was level ground inland; from which at night we saw

iire leaping up on every side at intervals, now greater, now less.

 

  1. Having taken in water there, we sailed along the

shore for five days, until we came to a great bay, which our

interpreters said was called Horn of the West. In it there

was a large island, and within the island a lake of the sea, in

which there was another island. Landing there during the

day, we saw nothing but forests, but by night many burning

fires, and we heard the sound of pipes and cymbals, and the

noise of drums and a great uproar. Then fear possessed us,

and the soothsayers commanded us to leave the island.

 

  1. And then quickly sailing forth, we passed by a burn-

ing country full of fragrance, from which great torrents of fire

flowed down to the sea. But the land could not be come at

for the heat.

 

  1. And we sailed along with all speed, being stricken by

fear. After a journey of four days, we saw the land at night

covered with flames. And in the midst there was one lofty

fire, greater than the rest, which seemed to touch the stars.

By day this was seen to be a very high mountain, called

Chariot of the Gods.

 

  1. Thence, sailing along by the fiery torrents for three

days, we came to a bay, called Horn of the South.

 

  1. In the recess of this bay there was an island, like the

former one, having a lake, in which there was another island,

full of savage men. There were women, too, in even greater

number. They had hairy bodies, and the interpreters called

them Gorillie. When we pursued them we were unable to

take any of the men ; for they all escaped, by climbing the

steep places and defending themselves with stones; but we

took three of the women, who bit and scratched their leaders,

and would not follow us. So we killed them and flayed them,

and brought their skins to Carthage. For we did not voyage

further, provisions failing us.

 

 

THE GEOGRAPHY OF THE VOYAGE OF HANNO

 

The Carthaginian colonies mentioned in this text can be iden-

tified only in the most general way with any existing settlement.

They were destroyed and abandoned so many centuries ago that no

traces are likely to remain, although the unsettled condition of the

country, which has remained to the present time, has prevented any

exploration of the interior or even of the coast itself.

 

  • 1. The Pillars of Hercules are, of course, the Straits of

Gibraltar.

 

  • 2. The first city, called in the text Thymiaterium, is identi-

fied by Miiller as Mehedia at the mouth of the Sbou River at about

34° 20′ N. The name of this city as we have it is a Greek corrup-

tion and to the eyes of various commentators suggests Dumathir—^i

ground, or city of the plain.

 

  • 3. The Promontory of Solois is probably the same as Cape

Cantin at 32° 30′ N.

 

  • 4. The section of marshy ground is probably reached on

both sides of Cape Safi, 32° 20′ N.

 

  • 5. The location of the five colonies mentioned in this para-

graph is uncertain. Miiller places the first at the ruins of Agouz, 32 5

at the mouth of the Tensift River. The second perhaps at Mogador,

31° 30′. The third at Agadir, 30° 25′. The fourth at the mouth

of the Messa River, 30° S’. The fifth, perhaps, at the mouth of the

Gueder River, 29° 10′, or at Araouas, 29°.

 

  • 6. The Lixus River is quite certainly the modern Wadi

Draa, emptying into the ocean at 28 30 .

 

  • 8. The island of Cerne, lying in the recess of a bay, is iden-

tified with the modern Heme Island within the mouth of the Rio de

Oro at about 23° 45′ N. The relative distances as mentioned in this

paragraph from the Straits of Gibraltar to Carthage and to Heme

Island respectively, are very nearly correct.

 

  • 9. The Chretes River Miiller identifies with the modern

St. Jean at 19° 25′, at the mouth of which the three islands exist

as the text describes.

 

  • 10, The great river full of crocodiles and hippopotami is

identified with the Senegal at about 16° 30′ N.

 

  • § 12 and 13. These great wooded mountains around which the

expedition sailed, can be nothing but Cape Verde, and the immense

opening of the sea is the mouth of the Gambia River at 13° 30′ N.

 

  • 14. The bay called Horn of the West reaches from 12° to

to 11° N. and the islands are the modern Bissagos.

 

  • 16. The high mountain called Chariot of the Gods, Miiller

identifies with Mt. Kakulima at 9° 30′ N.

 

  • § 17 and 18. The island enclosed within the bay called Horn

of the South, it is now agreed by all commentators, is the modern

Sherboro Sound in the British colony of Sierra Leone, about 7° 30′ N.

 

This identification of the places named in the text extends

Hanno’ s voyage about 29 degrees of latitude along the West African

coast, or a total length outside of Gibraltar, following the direction of

the shore line, of about 2600 miles.

 

 

EDITIONS OF THE PERIPLUS OF HANNO

 

(From Bunbury, History of Ancient Geography, I, 332-3)

 

The narrative of Hanno was certainly extant in Greek at an early

period. It is cited in the work ascribed to Aristotle on Marvellous

Narratives (§ 37) which belongs to the 3d century B. C. ; as well as

by Mela, Pliny, and many later writers; and Pliny expressly speaks

of it as the source whence many Greek and Roman writers had

derived their information, including, as he considered, many fables.

C Pliny, H. N., V. 8.)

 

The authenticity of the work may be considered as unquestion-

able. The internal evidence is conclusive upon that point. There

is considerable doubt as to the date of the voyage. On this point the

narrative itself gives no information, and the name Hanno was very

common at Carthage. (See Smith’s Diet, of Bios., Art. Hanno).

But it has been generally agreed that this Hanno was either the father

or the son of the Hamilcar who led the great Carthaginian expedition

to Sicily in B. C. 480. In the former case the Periplus may be prob-

ably assigned to a date about B. C. 520; in the latter it must be

brought down to about B. C. 470. This last view is that adopted by

  1. Miiller in his edition of the Periplus iGeographi Graci Minores, I,

xxi-xxiv), where the whole subject is fully discussed; but as between

him and his grandfather, the choice is hardly more than conjectural.

  1. Vivien de St. Martin, however, prefers the date of B. C. 570,

which had been previously adopted by Bougainville {Memoires

de I Acad’emie des Inscriptions, xxviii, 287).

 

“The Periplus of Hanno was first published at Basle in 1533 (as

an appendix to the Periplus of the Erythraean Sea j , from a manuscript in

the Heidelberg library i^Cod. Pal. Grcec, 398), the only one in vv^hich

it is found. There have been numerous subsequent editions; of these

the one by Falconer, 8vo, 1797, and Kluge, 8vo, Leipzig, 1829, are

the most valuable. The treatise is also included in the editions of the

 

A Bit of Trivia

According to the U.S. Marshals Service, one of the earliest uses of fingerprinting for purposes of identification dates to ancient Babylon, about 4,300 years ago, when merchants used fingerprints on clay tablets to finalize business transactions. The first use of fingerprints for forensic purposes in police investigations dates to 1892, when Juan Vucetich, an Argentine police official, used fingerprints to identify a criminal for the first time.

Ancient cultures in China, Persia, Greece, Egypt and Rome used fingerprints to establish identity for many purposes, including as makers’ marks on pottery, as decorations, to sign business contracts and to make loans between specific individuals. They did not use fingerprints to identify an unknown individual in the general population. Legal records show that during the Qin dynasty, which lasted from 221 to 206 B.C., the Chinese gathered hand prints, foot prints and fingerprints as evidence at a crime scene.

Taken from https://www.reference.com/world-view/history-fingerprinting-87e5bb7ff397aa0a  

Then if you want a timeline just click on this link

https://www.preceden.com/timelines/291760-history-of-fingerprints

100,000 bc – 1,000 bc

200 BC

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Archaeological Pet Peeves

#1.  https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/

One of the first pet peeves we have has to deal with the Biblical Archaeology Society. if you haven’t heard. Hershal Shanks has retired and enjoying his later years without the pressure of publishing the magazine or heading up the organization.

What bothers us is that he selected an atheist to take over. There have been a lot of changes made already to the structure of the magazine and the organization. So far, we have found none to be thrilling, good or even factual.

Robert Cargill took over the BAR magazine and it certainly is not a good change. He doe snot believe in God yet feels he can handle biblical issues objectively, even though everyone knows he can’t. The changes we have seen have caused us to stop support the organization as we liked the store they society had.

That is gone now and in our opinion that is a travesty, especially since we were about to buy the BAR update they had offered for years. Anyways, these changes makes us wonder if true biblical archaeologists will be published anymore.

We wished Mr. Shanks had selected a true Christian archaeologist to run both BAR and BAS. That way the truth would stand a chance in getting published.

#2. BAR Content- https://www.baslibrary.org/biblical-archaeology-review/46/2/21

Right now the current issue of BAR and different articles in their library are free. But the content is not as good as it should or could have been. The argument over when writing began in Israel does not do the topic justice and basically ignores the fact that writing was done prior to the 10th century BC.

With archaeology blind to the past and so many professional scholars and archaeologist missing a lot of manuscripts and other pertinent data, their claims to a late creation of writing is nonsensical. The information is not there to make that type of conclusion.

The author of that piece linked above, (and it may not be free for long) ignores the weaknesses of archaeology and that so much evidence has been lost due to wars, time and other factors.

This misinformation is a pet peeve of ours as it is basically lying to the people.

#3. Well meaning people- https://patternsofevidence.com/2020/04/10/discovery-of-12th-century-temple-at-lachish/?inf_contact_key=0711e8eaafcfcbf773e30797723ef6ef680f8914173f9191b1c0223e68310bb1

We know Timothy Mahoney only through brief discussions we had with him while he was preparing his first documentary. He is someone who wants to help prove the bible true and strengthen the faith of other believers but it is hard to do when the newsletter just sends out stories of archaeologists’ conclusion without questioning their validity.

That discovery is hard to accept by us as it is the same conclusions almost every other ancient building has when it is revealed to the world.Just because supposed cultic materials were found inside a room, doe snot make this building cultic or even used as a temple.

We would like to see these well meaning people use a bit more critical thinking when looking at or addressing these discoveries. The article even says that despite the lack of finding the right artifacts, they are going with the temple identification anyways. That is not good archaeology.

While we like the biblical perspective section included in the article, it is too easy to read things into the discovery when little can be taken out.

#4. ABR- https://biblearchaeology.org/

Generally we like ABR (Associates for Biblical Research) But sometimes they seem to side with the wrong people in their search for good biblical scholarship. One of those times was when they were writing about modern day abortion and child sacrifice in ancient Carthage.

Their siding with unverifiable accounts and condemning the people of Carthage without enough evidence does rub us the long way. Christian organizations have the responsibility to get to the truth and that objective can’t be done when one is agreeing with the words of the enemies of the subject people.

Sometimes Christian archaeologists and professionals tend to focus moor eon doing scholarship than it is on getting to the truth. That is what bothers us here as scholarship should be second to presenting the truth correctly.

Getting the truth out helps people build up their faith and see that God does not lie. Even when it means going against secular rules and opposing widely accepted theories and conclusions.

For the most part ABR does a good job but there are those times…Oh and the people at ABR do not like us as we have read some of their published works and had to correct some of the points they made. Those points mis-stated some facts and even though we were helping them we were told to leave them alone.

#5. Mis-stating ancient medical practices

We do not have a link for this as this is a late addition to the list. But we do get tired of archaeologists and scholars continuing to pass on misinformation about the past.

Most of the time, they read one or two incantations that may have come from an ancient version of the modern primitive witch doctor and assume or leap to the conclusion that all ancient people followed those incantations or used those possible medical doctors.

They do this in spite of the myriad of evidence for professional prescriptions, top notch surgeries that rival modern surgeons talents and abilities and other credible evidence.

The ancient world is not that much different from the modern one. Sure there may have been with doctors using their false religious beliefs to try and heal their fellow citizens but that does not mean they were in every society and every ancient civilization.

The modern world has the same type of people practicing their healing beliefs using their false religions as an aid. They are found where primitive societies exist and even in modernized nations.

Their presence does not mean that all people in a nation or society subscribe to those beliefs or even followed them. Nor does it mean that the ancient world was void of talented and capable doctors and surgeons.

This is the title of one good book to read about ancient medicine and its practices- Science & Secrets of Early Medicine by Jorgen Thorwald. There are others and inside you will see that the ancient world had world class doctors and surgeons handling their medical needs when they arose.

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The thing is we need people willing to get to the truth even when it applies to biblical archaeology, physics, and other areas of science. Doing what the unbeliever does is not going to cast the light Jesus wants us to cast.