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Faith Healing– one more time

Recently it was reported in the news that a man was sentenced to prison for following his faith and looking for healing from God for his daughter.  On the internet the story can be found under the title “Praying man let his daughter die”  There are two issues here that need to be discussed and the first one is, do not be surprised when the unbelieving world does not agree with scriptural practices.

The unregenerate world does not grasp nor comprehend the spiritual world or its duties.  The Bible is very clear on this thus doing not expect those charged with public order to sanction such activities blindly or readily.  They do not understand the why’s of such decisions; they react according to their own understanding, their own ideas and are under the influence of evil which leads them to attack anything of God.

“Defined broadly, faith healing is the attempt to use religious or spiritual means such as prayer to prevent illness, cure disease, or simply improve health. Proponents claim that prayers, mental practices, spiritual insights, or other techniques can summon divine or supernatural interventions on behalf of the ill. According to the varied beliefs of those who practice it, faith healing may be said to afford gradual relief from pain or sickness or to bring about a sudden “miracle cure”, and it may be used in place of, or in tandem with, conventional medical techniques for alleviating or curing diseases. Faith healing has been criticized on the grounds that those who use it may delay seeking potentially curative conventional medical care. This is particularly problematic when parents use faith healing techniques on children” (Faith Healing Psychology wiki)

That is not to say that all ‘faith healers’ are of God but that those who do practice their beliefs seriously will not be given honor but looked at as criminals.  This also does not mean that every step towards faith healing is the right move and that one must forgo seeing a doctor. There is a comment made by the father that is disturbing as it shows some misguided belief on his part and a failure to understand God and how he acts. He said:

“If I go to the doctor, I am putting the doctor before God,” he said. “I am not believing what he said he would do.”

Really?  Let’s take a closer look at this situation. First, at no time did God, Jesus or the disciples command that doctors be ignored.  There is no verse which says do not go to a doctor but seek faith healing all the time. Asa got in trouble “not because he went to a doctor but because he did not consult God first” (source not found).

Second, we have no evidence that God directed the parents to pray only nor do we have evidence that He told them NOT to go to a doctor. The father would not be ‘putting the doctor before God’ simply because he did not have instructions to stay away, he would not be disobeying God because he took his sick daughter to a doctor.

Third, there is no disbelief if one takes their child to a doctor unless God specifically said, ‘do not go’. It is this misguided faith that gets so many believers in trouble.  They assume something and without careful study of the scriptures and sincere prayer they act foolishly. God has His ways of doing things, and they must be consistent with Him and who He is, a person seeking healing by faith must adhere to God’s ways not their own ideas of those ways.

Fourth, going to a doctor is not a lack of faith. If one consults God first and asks what they should do and which doctor they should go to, God will lead them to the right person. Having faith doesn’t mean God is limited to one avenue of healing, He has many ways to accomplish answering prayer but they used when He gets the glory and the petitioner realizes it was only God who did it.

Finally, the sad part, be prepared for an answer of ‘no’.  Not everyone will be healed, God has said ‘it is appointed unto man once to die…’ we cannot escape death no matter the age of the person who is ill.  Death happens and it must be accepted, for that is the way of life. God did not guarantee longevity to all people, no one has the promise of long life outside of scriptural parameters and it is not unjust or unfair of God to allow some to die later than others. God has His purpose, His reasons and the servant of God must be ready to accept that fact and that each day is a gift to be used wisely and for Him.

What this man’s actions demonstrate is that he does not grasp the Biblical teachings and that his pastor should have been more active (considering the little we now of the situation) in stopping these parents from their actions.  proper instruction from the church leadership is important and it seems that it is lacking here as the parents and those gathered to pray were not fully apprised of how faith works or what was the correct procedure in this case.

it is not wrong to seek healing from God miraculously, it is not wrong to ask God to lead you to the right doctor, it is wrong to not consult God first and see what direction He wants you to use. I do not agree with the judgement of the court because they do not grasp all of the teachings about faith or God. The parents are only guilty of making a mistake. They did not withhold treatment from their daughter, they just chose the wrong one to use for that situation and they paid for it with the death of their daughter.

There is so much we do not know about this case, the strength of the parent’s faith, the beliefs they followed, and so much more but we do know what the Bible says, we have the examples of faith healing in both the old testament and the new, we know that Jesus usually required a physical act to demonstrate the petitioner’s faith- go to the pool and wash your eyes, show yourself to the priests, rise up and walk, the touching of His garment and so on.  The roman centurion provided his own physical act when He said he was not worthy to have Jesus come to his house but that if Jesus just spoke the words he knew his servant would be healed.

We see no physical demonstration of faith by the parents which showed that they believed without doubt that God would heal their daughter.  Believers when looking to the Bible for direction, need to read all the details, get all of the story to make sure they are acting according to what God said and not assume that if they do something without proper direction they will be granted their request.

There are parameters and criteria that must be met and one must seek God to make sure they know which ones they are to meet before acting.

For further reading:

1. Baker Encyclopedia of Christian Apologetics

2. The Collected Writings of W.E.Vine

3. Nelson’s New Illust. Bible Dict.

4. Nelson’s Topical Bible Index

 

Feeding Flock Magazine

These are the links to our now defunct magazine. We will accept donations through Western Union for any copies you want to read.

Volume 1

ISSUE #1 Sept. 2015 — Evidence

https://view.publitas.com/feeding-the-flock/publication/

ISSUE #2 Oct. 2015 — Science & the Church

https://view.publitas.com/feeding-the-flock/oct-2015/

 ISSUE #3 Nov 2015 — What Is Love

https://view.publitas.com/feeding-the-flock/nov-2015/

 ISSUE #4 Dec 2015 — Women and the Church

https://view.publitas.com/feeding-the-flock/dec2015/

 ISSUE #5 JANUARY 2016– Faith Healing

https://view.publitas.com/feeding-the-flock/jan-2016/

ISSUE #6 FEBRUARY 2016— The Church

https://view.publitas.com/feeding-the-flock/feb-2016/

ISSUE #7 MARCH 2016— Evolution, The Big Bang & Creation

https://view.publitas.com/feeding-the-flock/march-2016/

 ISSUE #8 APRIL 2016— Who Owns Archaeology

https://view.publitas.com/feeding-the-flock/april-2016/

 ISSUE # 9 MAY 2016– Frauds, Forgeries and Facts

https://view.publitas.com/feeding-the-flock/may-2016/

ISSUE #10 JUNE 2016— Contradictions in the Bible

https://view.publitas.com/feeding-the-flock/june-2016/

ISSUE #11 2016— Hitler & God

https://view.publitas.com/feeding-the-flock/july-2016/

ISSUE # 12 2016— Emerging Church

https://view.publitas.com/feeding-the-flock/aug-2016/

Volume 2
Issue #1 2016– Short Stories
Issue #2 2016 — Photo Essay
 
Issue #3 2016 — The Pre-Flood World
 
If the links do not work just copy and paste them into your browser form.
 

Believers & Churches Are TOO Immature

This is the conclusion we have come to over the years. As we leave for our vacation, it seems that topics keep coming to mind so we will post this little tidbit to close things out.

They are more bent on being part of a fad or some other distorted behavior than they are in getting things right. One fad that comes to mind and annoys us greatly is the badly used term ‘gifted’. It is not correct English and it is just annoying whenever we hear it. Another pet peeve that sends us a clue is the use of drums and worship teams in every service. While the Bible does not disallow their use, we have a problem when women are leading men and when the leaders are having their own private worship on stage and everyone else does not know what to do. There is no leading to worship or guiding the people just a person closing their eyes on stage and spiritually whacking off, for a lack of a better term.

Spiritually mature churches would take the time to teach their people how to do worship and services correctly, leaning not to their own understanding but bringing to the people what God wants them to know and how to apply that knowledge correctly. Worship, like church, is not a game and people in the church rarely understand what they are doing or why they are doing it.

We wonder if it is too late for the church in general to grow up and be real believers, someone God would be proud of to have as his child or better yet, be able to use for greater spiritual duties and objectives. Far too many believers do not want to grow up spiritually and that leaves God with a problem as evil has millions of people who are adults and who make mincemeat out of unprepared spiritually unfit believers. How can God win when believers refuse to learn, grow up spiritually and prepare for real spiritual duty?

When the church remains immature children it is no wonder God is not making an impact in this world. The people he has chosen to use are not doing their part and are getting defeated too easily by well prepared forces of evil. God doesn’t want us to pass the buck back to him when we face a spiritual problem or crisis, he wants us to learn how to handle them correctly so that we can grow spiritually.

We are letting God down, he is not letting us down.Churches need to grow up and mature if they want to make a dent in evil’s strongholds.

 

Bits & Pieces

We may make this into a new series to discuss news in brief or specific articles that directly impact the faith.

#1. http://www.christianpost.com/news/why-should-evangelicals-observe-lent-176320/

“I’ve seen that surge in the church where I pastor, without any promotion from me,” Ponder wrote. “I’ve seen the same on social media, going hardly more than two minutes without bumping into a post by a friend describing what they are doing, reading, or giving up for Lent.”

Mere Orthodoxy also noticed this not so long ago, mentioning that the Lenten “devotional expression, long a hallmark of more liturgical churches, is now a growing trend among low-church evangelicals.”

Pastors need to be careful how they relate Lent and other fad practices to the church. One can support almost anything from the Bible and it is not a wise practice to follow false teaching even if it has scriptural support. False teaching is false teaching and if one is not careful, they may be fooled because the false teacher has supported his or her heresy from the scriptures. Case in point:

CP asked Packiam to respond to the objection that since Lent is not explicitly in Scripture, not a “divine statute,” it should therefore not be practiced.

“Forty-day fast periods are there in Scripture. So, early Christians, one of the first things they did as a way of preparing new believers for baptism, was to have a 40-day fast period. And, if you think of it that way, we are using a practice that ancient Israelites used. A 40-day fast period is a way of seeking God, as a way of repenting,” he said.

Yes 40 day past periods were part of the early church but the purpose behind those fasts were vastly different from what is behind Lent. Then just because the fast is present in scripture does it mean that Lent is okay. Lent is not a real fast nor is it biblical. We do not follow what  is not biblical.
In keeping with what the company describes as a longstanding policy to be inclusive, Disney XD, for the first time in the company’s history, included several gay characters kissing in an episode of “Star vs. The Forces of Evil,” one of its most popular cartoons on Monday. And conservatives are not happy about it.

Disney has lost its way. Parents need to be strong when they teach their children for their children will face a lot of peer pressure concerning many different activities not just inclusion of those who do wrong and call it good. Christians are not to ‘go along to get along’ but need to be wise and instruct their children correctly so that the latter can handle the problems that come their way when they do not participate in the popular activities. It is not the schools that give children their moral training but the parents and the churches need to train the parents well and properly so that they can handle these difficult issues.
When I was working in a group home many years ago, the founder came to me and said ‘you got to yoke em when the are young’. His yoking was not that Christian in nature though he claimed to be a Christian and sadly it seems that someone at Disney heard the same statement for that is what they seem to be doing- yoking the young so that they will accept evil as good. Evil is never good, never right and not to be taught to little children. They need to learn God’s standards of right and wrong, good and evil, and morality and immorality. They also have to learn God’s commandments and instructions so that they may grow strong in the Lord and fear him not man.
Some Christian parents are voicing their disapproval after the U.K. government mandated that sex and relationships be taught in all English schools. They argue that they should be the ones taking the lead on such an important issue and protecting their children from things like pornography.

Yes Christian parents should take the lead for the secular world does not have superior objective standards to govern their behavior and presentations. Do not expect the secular world do operate according to Christian principles.
The New York City Department of Education has instructed teachers and faculty to address transgender students by their preferred pronouns  — whether that be “he,” “she,” “they” or “ze.”

Case in point. This is just dumb and shows that God is no longer in New York Education. The New York department errs as we do not reinforce mental illness or confusion. We are to straighten out the thinking of the young so that they know the difference between right and wrong and help them make the right choices.
 
 

We Like This Article

http://www.christianpost.com/news/caitlyn-jenner-man-wearing-dress-176062/

I do not write these words lightly, and there is not an ounce of mockery or, God forbid, hatred in my heart when I say that Caitlyn Jenner is a man wearing a dress.

1. there is no settled science confirming transgender identity

2. we still know very little about many operations of the brain, including those related to what is now called gender dysphoria (previously known as gender identity disorder, or GID)

3. studies continue to indicate that the vast majority of children who identify as transgender do not do so after puberty (even if many ultimately identify as gay)

4. there must be a better way than our current approach to treating gender dysphoria

5. it is unfair to impose the struggles of less than 1 percent of the population on the rest of the population, especially on impressionable kids

6. gender distinctions should be celebrated and appreciated, rather than branded patriarchal or heterosexist or the like.

And while I’m at, let me say this to CNN’s Chris Cuomo: Sir, it is not intolerant for a father not to want his daughter to see a boy’s penis at school. That’s called being a good dad.

He is direct and to the point. Transgender people are only fooling themselves and being deceived by evil.There is nothing normal about rejecting your birth gender and people who support such changes are aiding evil’s attempt to destroy God’s creation.

 
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Posted by on February 28, 2017 in academics, Bible, church, controversial issues, family, homosexuality, illness, leadership, politics

 

A Word To Vegetarians/Vegans

We will use the word vegetarian here to include vegans and all other non-meat eaters.

Everyone knows you think your diet is superior to a meat-eating one; everyone knows you judge meat eaters and insult them; everyone knows you are rude to your hosts when you bring your own food to a dinner party  hosted by meat eaters. We have heard the vegetarian argument ad nauseam.

But there are a few points you need to consider which we hope will change your attitude. Yes, your attitude is terrible when it comes to your diet. First, when God gave the Israelites their divinely commanded diet he did not ban all meat products or animals. He allowed the Israelites to eat different kinds of beef and fish along with some other animals.

God told Peter in a vision about going to the Gentiles- ‘do not call unclean what I have cleansed’ This directive can also be applied to one’s food intake. What God has approved no one can call wrong, unclean or inferior.

Second, Jesus ate Kosher. This means that Jesus ate meat according to the laws set down for the Israelites by his father in heaven. We read about this in the Bible. Too often vegetarians think that they are greater than both God and Jesus and that they know better than them.  They think they can make a better diet than the one Jesus ate or God instituted. They can’t. It is not sin to eat meat nor is it less healthy as the Bible does not teach that one diet is greater than the other or that eating a certain way will extend their lives.

Third, When the Israelites were on their Exodus, they got tired of eating certain foods and complained . God fed them meat. He did not send a bunch of vegetable vendors to provide food for the wandering people instead he sent birds. If God had commanded that the Israelites could not eat meat, why would he help them sin by sending them meat?

Fourth, Vegetarians forget that God rejected Cain’s meatless offering.  Meat is a prime ingredient in making offerings to God for only meat contains the blood needed to meat God’s requirements for forgiveness of sins and other sacrifices.God never allowed for a vegetable substitute. The priests were allowed by God to eat part of the meat sacrificed to him. If God wanted his people to be meatless then he would not have provided that permission. If God approves of meat then no human can declare meat to be wrong or unhealthy.

Then to address a couple of our introductory remarks. The Bible tells us to eat what is placed in front of us. But we are not going to be strict here because there are a lot of foods placed in front of us that we just cannot get down or keep down. The point of this is that vegetarians need to learn that their diet is not divinely commanded and they will not sin if they break it. It is okay to eat meat and then go back on your diet when you are in your own home, etc. Since a vegetarian diet is not biblically commanded one is not disobeying God when they break it. There is no divine consequence if a vegetarian has to eat a little meat to be polite to their hosts.

Vegetarians are not greater than meat eaters. Nor are they perfect so stop breaking the command  ‘do not judge’. It is not a sin to eat meat nor does eating meat make a person inferior to vegetarians. The verses in the Bible talking about humbleness apply to vegetarians and how they view their diet.

Finally, get over yourselves. You are free to not eat meat if you so choose but you are not free to make other people go meatless. You have free choice as to what you will eat and how you will construct your diet so do meat eaters. You do not have the right to force your dietary rules upon others. nor make their decisions for them. Other people get to freely choose what they will eat. If you are going to be a zealot about your diet then stay away from meat eaters. There is no divine command to convert people to a vegetarian diet. If you sit at a table with meat eaters then keep your mouth closed about your diet and just enjoy the other person’s company and have a good discussion on anything else.

Vegetarians die from the same corruption, diseases and other causes of death just like meat eaters. Their diet does not extend their life nor protects them from dying. No matter what you eat, death comes eventually so chill out and take it down a few notches because you are not being biblical when you give your diet divine status or make it superior to the teaching of the bible.

 
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Posted by on February 15, 2017 in academics, church, controversial issues, education, family, General Life, illness, leadership, theology

 

Birthday Break +

After this post we are going to take a few days to celebrate a birthday. We will return later in the week.

But here are a couple of short points before we go:

#1. http://www.christianheadlines.com/blog/street-preacher-accused-of-hate-crime-after-sharing-scripture-with-gay-teen.html

Liberals and unbelievers are the ones who want to keep their fellow-man locked in their sins.It is not a hate crime to try to free someone from their sinful imprisonment.

#2. http://www.christianheadlines.com/columnists/guest-commentary/free-pastors-from-the-johnson-amendment.html

Sorry but we like the Johnson Amendment as we do not believe pastors should be telling anyone how to or who to vote for. Pastors need to lead their people to doing politics God’s way not trying to influence an election.

#3. http://www.christianheadlines.com/blog/uk-parents-win-millions-of-dollars-in-wrongful-birth-lawsuit.html  and  http://www.christianheadlines.com/blog/planned-parenthood-caught-offering-incentives-for-abortion.html

And you wonder why God destroyed the world with a global flood? And why he is going to destroy the world when this life is over?  God hates sin and it is not going to make it into heaven. Live holy lives so the world will see a difference and want what God has to offer.

#4. http://www.christianheadlines.com/blog/elderly-patients-at-risk-of-forced-starvation-in-oregon.html

The secular world does not care. The church needs to.

 
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Posted by on February 12, 2017 in academics, church, controversial issues, faith, family, General Life, homosexuality, illness, Justice, leadership, politics

 
 
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