Category Archives: Justice

The problem with denominations

Now we are not talking about money here. We are talking about one of the problems that come with human created religious denominations. We say human created because we can find no scriptural instruction or any other verse that supports the creation of individual church denominations. Jesus talked about building his church upon the rock but he did not split his church into varying amounts of theological beliefs.

There is only one truth and one church. Those who opt to create their denomination may not be outside of Jesus’ church but they can be vulnerable to certain dangers when they do so. One of those dangers is highlighted in the following article

The danger is that God and the Bible are ignored in favor of church rules. Here is one example:

“The Book of Discipline, which holds governing policies for The United Methodist Church (The UMC), maintains that clergy cannot be ‘self-avowed, practicing homosexuals,'” argued RMN in a blog post earlier this month. “This rule, however, is not applicable to members in leadership positions in The UMC who are not clergy. Leaders at Trinity UMC were falsely led to believe they had no other option but to dismiss Mould.”

The book of discipline, in this case, allows people to ignore the Bible and declare that practicing homosexuals can ignore biblical teaching and be part of the church leadership. The denomination leans on the book of discipline and not the Bible. This is not a smart move nor a correct one. Another example:

“… we are writing to urge you to acknowledge that Ryan’s firing is neither mandated nor supported by the Book of Discipline, to address this misrepresentation with the pastor involved, and to take action to ensure that no one else falls victim to misuse of the Book of Discipline in this manner,”

The church and its members appeal to the book of discipline and ignore God and his instructions for the church. This is a grave mistake to make. The book of discipline and every other church denomination’s rule books are not infallible words of God, given by God, or even approved by Him. They do not trump what God wants in his church.

Yet many church denominations have written rules that in effect rewrite the rules of God and open the door to sinful behavior taking place in the church. This is the danger faced when church denominations add their own ideas to what God has already written. People’s eyes are taken off God and his ways and placed upon human ideas instead. Human responses are replacing the responses God wants his followers to do. That is not right nor is it Christian.

We have not said that in and of itself that creating a church denomination is sin. BUT the dangers in doing so, do lead people to disobey God and sin. The denominational rules become the guiding force of the denomination and not the words of God. If you read that article you should have notied that GOD is not mentioned once in the story. What God wants for is church is left out and only the book of discipline matters.

If you are going to create or are a member of a church denomination, you need to keep your eyes open for these conflicts and lead people away from disobeying God. Denominational rules need to be corrected or rewritten- not the instructions of God. The church must follow God first.The Bible addresses every issue faced by humans in every era.

Do you really think that homsexuality was not faced by Jesus and the disciples? Do you really think God would leave gaps in his word and leave his church without instruction?

The Bible has the correct rules and direction for the church to follow. It must be placed above every denominational church rule. The church denominations need to edit their rule books, if they want to get back in God’s favor. God will still use them as they are, but there could be a better impact for him if the church stopped creating denominations and reunited under Jesus and his rules.


Our Annual Christmas Message

If you have read our blog for any length of time, you will know that we do not clog up our pages with endless feel good stories about Christmas. This is because 1). there are already enough people doing that; 2). we do not agree with the idea there is a war on Christmas; 3). we are not a fan of the commercialized season; we believe the Christian Christmas behavior should extend through the whole year; and 5). we do not agree that it is a Christian holiday.

Now you may not like our reasons and think we are infidels but we are not and it is your choice.We have yet to find any passage of scripture instruction Jesus’ followers to create and celebrate festivals. The decision to do so is between the creators and God. We do not think it is a wise idea to turn Christ’s birth into a stressful, commercialized phenomenon.

You also have the free choice to participate or not. BUT that free choice is also extended to us and every other person on the planet. If we do not feel like participating then no one should be condemned for ignoring the usual parties, extravaganza’s, and other trappings that come with Christmas. They have the right to freely choose how they will handle Christmas this year.

We have spoken on the supposed war on Christmas in the past. As far as we are concerned if the unbeliever doesn’t want Christ to be part of the festival, that is their choice. It s their holiday after all. Those who claim there is a war on Christmas are misinformed about what Christmas is and what it entails. Christians never originated the festival. Some ancient RCC priest or bishop stole it and tried to Christianize the secular festival to make the Christian faith more attractive (we have read all the stories about the origin of Christmas so you need to bring real evidence to make your contradictory point).

We think that dying for your faith is more attractive than breaking the bank trying to get gifts for everyone or throwing that perfect party, and so on. Christmas and its terminology is not worth fighting over. As far as we are concerned Christmas is not a Christian holiday nor should it be celebrated. Jesus instituted  communion for us to remember his birth, life, death and resurrection. An act of obedience would be giving communion a more serious thought and a higher priority. we do not need to spend lots of money at communion time either or through lavish parties but get a deeper understanding of Christ’s sacrifice without the interference from the secular world who have nothing to live for. They need festivals because their lack of belief robs them of any hope for life in eternity. We should be more concerned about that than celebrating a festival.

Another reason we are not fans of Christmas is that it seems the Christian attitude is displayed through superficial acts of generosity, and one time feel good gift giving to the less fortunate. We are not a fan of the shoe box campaign orchestrated by Samaritan’s purse. While it does make both the giver and the recipient feel good, that feeling is only for a short time. it also leaves the recipient in their oppressive and less fortunate condition. A better example of showing Christ’s love to them would be to send those with God’s healing power to do some miracles; or spend the year helping the oppressed get out of their less fortunate situations.

We are aware some people already do that but it is not enough. We also think that children should not be targeted. Believers should be working with the parents instead of undermining their authority or making them look bad.Helping the parents look good also shows the love and hope of Christ. Targeting children, who do need good gifts, leaves out a group of people who need to see Christ in action in their lives. Christianity is for all people not just children.

Christians should be working more with the adults because the children will see Christ in action through practical aid to their families.They will see the hope and love of Christ by seeing their fathers get jobs, their mothers get treated better and on it goes. I remember when the late Johnny Carson used to read children’s Christmas letters on the air. Some of the genuine ones would bring tears to a viewer’s eyes. Their only wish for a gift was for their dad to be employed.

Christians need to think in broader terms that have long-lasting effects not short-term projects designed to make believers feel good for a short time. These broader terms should have long-term results which actually help people out of their current situations. They should not be seen as passing the buck back to God after a small donation of a small gift. God uses people to help others. Believers need to look for projects that gets them involved in other people’s lives. You will see God work better and strengthen your faith more by doing so.

The Christian Christmas spirit should be employed 365 days of the year not just for one month through special projects. helping people is what Christmas is all about. So is showing the love  and hope of god through better action than just saying ‘be warm and filled’. Jesus made this point very clearly. There is  a distinct way of behaving like a Christian and it involves getting involved with others and actually helping them out of their difficult situation.

The Christian faith is not about forcing others to follow the accepted Christian position but showing the same love Jesus showed us. He did not accept our sin in demonstrating that love, but gave us a way out of our impoverished situation. We need to do the same for others starting at Christmas and continuing until God calls time. We also need to make sure we are following the Holy Spirit’s leading when participating in these long-term projects.

Helping others is a great way to ave a good Christmas.



We do not normally look at these controversial issues all the time. There are times when our voice would simply just be another one in a crowd. But this issue saddens us. When sin happens in the church we certainly are not delighted. But we know that it does thus we are not shocked when we read about these different failings. Our main concern is for believers, victims and offenders not lose their faith. We must remember that believers are not perfect, cannot control their lusts, have other struggles which makes living the Christian life very difficult.


What we call for here  comes in several points. First, we cannot let emotion dictate our response. Using emotion to adjudicate offenses is not a biblical teaching. Nor is playing to the emotions. To get to the heart of this matter and solve this problem (for the present & future) we need to follow biblical steps. These steps do not favor one side or the other but strives for true justice.


Before we continue though, we will post the link and a quote to make sure everyone understands the full scope of what we are talking about.


Hundreds of women have been revealing stories of rape, sexual abuse and harassment that they suffered inside church or at the hands of Christian men in leadership, using the #churchtoo hashtag to shed light on countless disturbing experiences.


Second we will, if you allow us, to tell a story first.We forget the exact source of the story but that doesn’t matter. It did not originate with us, it did not take place in our church nor do we know the people involved. We are not going to tell every detail either. Not because we are protecting identities but that all the details are not necessary to make the point. The story takes place over several weeks or months.


There was a pastor who had a teenage daughter. One day a very spiritual lady in the congregation came to him and told him there was a problem with one of the elders. It was a sexual issue. The pastor decided to go directly to the elder and ask him if there was anything going on. Of course the elder denied it and since he had a sterling reputation the pastor took his word for it.


The woman came back a second time with more specific information. The sexual encounter was between the pastor’s daughter and the elder. Again the pastor went to the elder and he again denied it. Finally the daughter admitted to what was going on and the pastor was devastated of course. The rest of the details are not important except that the pastor blamed God and through away his faith.


There are some parallels between this story and the #churchtoo issue. First, to get to the truth and the heart of the issue, there must be an honest, impartial investigation. Zech. 8:16 says


These are the things which you should do: speak the truth to one another; judge with truth and judgment for peace in your gates.


Any pursuit of justice must be guided by the cannot just take someone’s word for it. This goes for both sides of the offense. The victims, or supposed victims, must tell the truth. If they tell the truth, then the evidence will support their stories. Allegations and accusations, law suits etc., are not evidence nor are they necessary the truth. 40 allegations all telling the same story does not mean a crime actually took place. The number of allegations is not evidence of a crime. It is evidence supporting the idea that people still use Hitler’s observation- if you tell a lie often enough, people will begin to think it is the truth.


If that pastor had listened to God’s word and conducted a real investigation, he may have spared his daughter months of abuse. He may have also have kept his faith. God sent a warning to him through that church member but instead of obeying God the pastor did the investigation his way.


Second, position in the church does not mean one is free from sin. As the #churchtoo and that story tell us church leaders have decided to sin, fall to temptation, been under attack from evil and have acted in a sinful manner. Before we condemn, we must understand the source behind the acts. Christians are not perfect, they are not granted infallibility upon conversion and will do things that are not in line with biblical teaching. We should not be shocked when these sins take place.We should not be traumatized when church leaders fail. We need to build up our spiritual strength and faith so that we can handle these problems correctly when they do arise.


By the word correctly, we mean that no announcement should be made that the ‘çhurch and its leadership are following biblical teaching’. If the church and its leadership is doing that, then everyone will know it.We do not make a show of our church discipline. We do not act unjustly by adding to the punishment public humiliation. We do not make ‘an example’of the church leader caught in sin nor apply zero tolerance. Neither are of God nor do they solve any problems.


Third, we do not know if this took place in the story or not, victims do not publicly announce that they were victims of a crime. Not only does such action undermine any credibility of the victim but it taints the public so that an honest investigation and trial cannot be held, as well as bring a negative witness to the church. The excuse that is often used is ‘we want to show solidarity to…’or ‘we want to encourage others to step forward…’and on the excuses flow. Getting sympathy i snot a biblical goal.We do not need to use the media to proclaim that we have been a victim.


The word will get out when the proper authorities are told about the crime and real evidence is presented to them. If we want to empower or give confidence to other victims then act biblically and set the example.Let God work so people can see God cares about them and take heart from that example. Going public and jumping on the bandwagon is not a tool for evangelism. Such actions can be used by evil to build stumbling blocks to the unbeliever. The world may do piling on, jumping on the bandwagon and so on but the church cannot afford to participate in such actions. They still need to be the light unto the world even in these circumstances.


We understand that you may be a victim but the God who knows more than we tells us how to proceed. He has given us a Bible full of instructions and one key passage is ‘do unto others…’Think how you would like to be treated and act accordingly. Being biblical comes from the heart and not done as a show.


This brings us to the fourth point, which is in neither example. We need to forgive the offenders. This action does not mean that the offender gets a free pass or that their deeds are swept under the rug. It means that we have removed the beams from our eyes and now can see clearly o how to proceed with the investigation, the trial so that we can bring a just and fair is not just nor fair to broadcast people’s sins around the world. It is not just and fair to jump on the bandwagon and say ‘me too’ or çhurchtoo’.


Everyone knows men and women sin. It does not have to be reinforced by fads or trends. Nor does it have to be made known through nefarious means. While women want payback they need to be taught that revenge is God’s not theirs- even in sexual sins. Women need to stifle the desire to ‘hurt the offender’ because that is not of God nor is it just or justice. We, men and women, are not allowed to sin in response to any type of crime including sexual ones. God does not honor sin at any time nor excuse it. Committing sin also deprives everyone of justice and a solution to the problem.


There have been enough offenses on both sides of the crime in the church. Both men and women are not innocent in these matters.Repentance for the crime, the lies, the failure to forgive or obey God is demanded before any justice can be done through #churchtoo. Ruining people is not the goal of the believer. While you may still be hurting from those offenses committed against you, you may not be aware of the fact that the offender may have truly repented and received forgiveness of from God. You may not know that they may have been punished by God already and subsequently changed their ways.


We cannot hold past sins of the people over their heads for the rest of their lives. We are not greater than God. If we truly repent then God forgets our sins after he forgives us. But we still are punished. Forgiveness never replaces or removes just punishment. Some time ago there was a fad called ‘what would Jesus do’. We know what Jesus would do for he told and showed us. He forgave, he did not falsely accuse, he did not seek revenge. he did’not try to ‘hurt someone and on it goes.If you want an example to follow look in the Bible. We have plenty. Jesus showed us the way for all sins even if he was not sexually abused. He still set the example of what to do when we are the victim of sexual sins.


The Bible covers all sins. Sexual sin is not new. We must follow Christ’s example and his instructions if we want justice and if we want forgiveness for our offenses. The Bible tells us if we want to have God forgive us, we must forgive also- do unto others…’


We are not in favor of this ‘metoo’ and #churchtoo, trend that is taking place right now. It is not that we are not sympathetic or we are defending sinners. We are all sinners. We are more concerned that the victims and their families, friends and even the offenders, do not lose their faith like that pastor did. He failed to see God warning him; he failed to take the right biblical action, he failed to see God protecting his family and so he decided to blame God for his own mistakes.


That is not right. Too often we miss where God has done what he has said and we blame him for something he has not done. A church leader, male or female, who decides to sin is not acting on instructions from God. We need to put the blame where it lies- on evil. Sin comes from evil not God. In these situations we should be taking refuge in God, not attacking him for crimes he did not commit. God can’t heal if we do not let him. He cannot bring justice if we exclude him from the process.


Look to God for your solutions not fads or bandwagons. Keep your eyes on Jesus even when church leaders let you down or sin. Jesus is the only one who can help.




Torture is Not Christian

Torture as you know is not of God. But some people may only have ahead knowledge about the act. Here are some pictures to give you a deeper understanding of what torture is and the pain it inflicts on people. Thee following examples come from Korea when they were under Japanese occupation. These are only some of the torture tactics the Japanese used.


If You Think Slavery is Dead…

…think again. We are in the midst of reading Eric Schlosser’s book, Fast Food Nation, and in chapters 7 & 8 he describes the working conditions of those employed in the meatpacking industry. This industry provides almost all the beef to your favorite fast food restaurant. The book is an interesting read. A little long on details but very informative and sad. The only difference we saw between slavery to the 1600s to the 1900s and the meatpacking employment practices was that the latter’s employees were/are free to leave. The original slaves, of course, were not. In fact, these corporations encouraged high turnover as it saved them money.

The working conditions described were very discouraging and shows that not much has been gained or changed since the Civil War. Employers are still on the lookout for people they can take advantage of and abuse. If you think businesses actually care about you or their employees, think again. Businesses are in business to make money. They probably love money as much as bankers do.They do not care who they use and abuse, even governments as these corporations bully the governments to put them on the corporate welfare rolls. If you think slavery is dead, think again. it has merely risen in another form.

Why are we bringing this up? When we were in Korea we knew a Baptist believer who made an interesting statement on a Native English Teacher discussion forum one year. He said “the Bible does not apply to businesses.”  He was and may still be very misguided. We tried to set him straight but we are not sure if he accepted the correction.

He was very wrong in that conclusion. If the Bible does not apply to businesses then where are God’s instructions for business owners to follow? How can they be pleasing to God if they do not have his instructions to obey? These are but two questions that defeat my old friend’s position. If businesses do not have the Bible governing their behavior, thinking and words then they are free to do whatever they want and no one can say one word about it.This is not only unfair but unjust. This exemption would have deep ramifications concerning the christian life, the Bible and God. Those ramifications are for another day. Our concern here is to correct the misguided thinking people have about the Bible and its application.

We are going to go as far as to say that the Bible and God’s instruction not only apply to corporate life but also education, science, and every other aspect of life, including politics and governing. Those people who claim that the Bible does not oversee all these non-religious institutions and industries are encouraging other humans to sin and disobey God. That is not  very good situation to be in. To allow others to sin, for whatever reason, is not intelligent and ignoring biblical teaching. The church’s purpose is not to give free passes to those who engage in non-religious activities but to direct them to the right way to live. Jesus set that example with Zacheus and that example is not limited to tax collection. it applies to all aspects of life.

The Bible is God’s word and it was, contrary to what theological scholars claim, written for all men and all human activities. How can governments govern when they remove the light and the truth from their authority? How can business leaders do what is right and do unto others correctly when they are told they do not have to follow God and his word? How can children be taught correctly when educators are told the Bible does not provide them the right educational standards to follow?

God did not write his instructions for them to be ignored. He did not write the Bible for his creation to be used and abused. He wrote his words so that all people-businessmen, politicians educators, believers and so on knew what was expected of them and what is the right path to follow. Sadly, there are some churches, denominations and cults who still use his word to more than abuse people.

No one, no business entity, no government, anyone, is exempt from obeying God’s words. The Bible tells us that governments will be called to account for their governing. If the church does not remind politicians of this and call for them to return to following the Bible correctly, how can politicians and government change? If business leaders are not told by the church that their actions are wrong, sinful and disobedient to God then how can they know the difference between right and wrong? How can they stop mistreating people if they are allowed to get away with the abuse and underpayment of their employees?

The Bible is the standard for all people in all areas of life. Without the biblical guide everyone is left up their own devices and we saw how that turned out. God destroyed the world with the flood.The Bible applies to business life, corporate life, educational life, government life and so much more. God rules everything not just the individual’s life.His word tells everyone how they are conduct themselves even in non-religious areas of employment and leadership..

The Bible applies to all…no exceptions. Following it removes all of slavery, even the kind that allows its employees to leave their oppressive, demeaning, poverty level paying employment.


Human Rights is Not the Goal 2

Our last article on this topic was linked to by the Baraza Foundation. You can read their work at the following link:

We appreciate these pingbacks and any other form of linking to our work no matter the reason they are linked. Because of this pingback we reviewed our article to make sure we said our point very clearly and did not leave anything out.From our perspective we think we are okay.

One of the problems that arise when human rights activists start trying to obtain equal treatment for everyone is that they choose ‘rights’ over right and wrong. In today’s world being free and having ‘rights’ is more important than behaving correctly. We understand that people do not like rules unfortunately for them any society absent of rules is not a society. It is only anarchy

People may be born free but that does not mean they are free to pursue any activity or preference they desire.If we were allowed to do that then there would be no need for law enforcement, judges, prisons. You cannot apply human rights selectively for then those excluded from those rights would be discriminated against and the people drawing that line would be exactly like those governments, churches and other organizations which make rules to govern their populations. They are making rules and declaring something to be right and something to be wrong.

The only difference between them and government/churches is that their idea of right and wrong does not match up. Nothing has changed except the former made the right category larger and the wrong category smaller.

BUT the actions of the former do NOT change sinful behavior into non-sinful activities. While they may be more tolerant of sinful activity, their declaration that wrong behavior is okay, normal and not sin does not change the real status of those behaviors.Those for human rights do not have the authority to declare what is sin and what is not. Only God has that authority. God has never rewarded sinful behavior,he only rewards obedience..

Creating a list of human rights does not mean one is obeying God or making society better. it does mean that the people working for human rights are trying to implement their ideas over other people’s ideas of what human rights should entail.That action is not fair either nor is it just.

For believers, they already have a human rights code to follow. It is found in the Bible and one of the key passages in scripture tells the believer to ‘do unto others as they would like to be treated’. BUT that passage is not an excuse to defy God and call evil good. Another passage is ‘love one another as I have loved you’ But AGAIN, clarification is needed. Jesus never loved sin and he never changed God’s declaration of what is or isn’t sin. He called people to be born again. LOVE does not leave people in their sins but calls them to embrace repentance and salvation. Jesus told Nicodemus that all people must be born gain (John 3).

To be born again a person must give up their sin. That identification is restricted to what GOD declared as sin not what humans declare is sin or not sin. Jesus never called anyone to follow a human standard.There is no argument that Christians need to treat other humans better. BUT keep in mind that the way God wants his followers to treat their fellow human may not line up with the unbelievers’ perspectives.

This is not an excuse to continue to treat other humans badly but puts the onus on the believer to do their Bible study and application correctly. They must arrive at the truth by following the Holy Spirit to it, make sure they are factually following the HS, and then apply that truth to all ares of life correctly. This includes law enforcement, the legal and political realms and even how they treat their own children. People are called to follow Jesus not humans. Human thinking needs to be transformed to accomplish that goal.Unbelievers do not possess that transformation thus they cannot tell believers what the latter should be doing. The latter takes their marching orders from God.

Those orders may bring a different response than the one unbelievers are expecting. God does not define the word ‘love’ in the same manner as secular humans. Love may bring liberty BUT it still does not allow or accept sin.It keeps God’s standard of right and wrong intact reminding the world that there is right way and a wrong way to live.


On another note, a point that the LGBTQ community uses to support their preferences must be addressed. It is often pointed out that homosexual activity is observed in the animal kingdom. These observations are used to declare that non-heterosexual activity is natural and normal. That is looking at those animal acts with rose-colored glasses.

The LBGTQ people are not looking at those actions with an honest or objective mind. They fail to see that the sin and corruption that entered the world at Adam’s sin is not restricted to humans only. That sin and corruption also affected the animal world, leading them to do abnormal acts, like homosexual behavior, instead of doing the normal heterosexual practice. Just because some animals participate in homosexual activities does not mean that it is okay for humans to do it. Animal practices are not justification for humans to lead sinful lives.

IF homosexual behavior was okay in animals, if it was normal and natural then God would not have been forced to destroy all the animals in the flood. Keep in mind God’s instructions to Noah. He commanded Noah to bring into the ark both male and female and since for the  most part ONLY TWO animals of each kind were to be brought on there was no acceptance by God of any homosexual activity- even in animals. The normal and natural union between both man and animals is heterosexual. Every other alternative is sin, unnatural and not of God.

Animals paid and pay the price for their abnormal behavior. They do not set the example for humans to follow. Jesus did that already.


Sexual Allegations

This trend continues to snowball out of control and proportion. We have not talked about it much because people, especially women, are not wanting to listen to anything that contradicts their point of view or their desired action. In the case of the above story, where does the Bible say you ruin a good man over past deeds? What if the allegations are not true? Then a good man still has endured something he should not have had to go through.

I remember back in the first Simpson trial where a woman was quoted as saying,”I know he is guilty. I just know it.” Well knowing it is NOT enough. That lady had no evidence of any wrong doing but magically came to that conclusion. That is not biblical teaching either nor applying the Bible correctly. Evidence, real evidence, gathered honestly, objectively, faithfully and following all the rules is needed. Intuition is not a biblically based method of declaring the guilt of another person.

Does this mean that people like Roy Moore get a free pass? Not really, even though it seems that Al Franken is being given one. His supposed crimes need to be honestly dealt with on both sides and it seems that Gloria Allred is being very dishonest in her role as counsel for a supposed ‘victim’. Lying about others, misrepresenting what happened is not legal procedures nor is it of God.

We haven’t even begun to touch on the allegations against the many male celebrities that have hit the news recently. If their actions are sinful then they will need to honestly repent and ask for forgiveness. Of course forgiveness does not mean they do not get punished. It just means one has removed the beams from their own eyes so they can deal with the matter properly.

We have never liked the idea that political reps., celebrities, and other public figures have been removed from their jobs over unproven allegations. Those who remove them without first securing a legal verdict of guilt are committing as much sin as those whom they accuse and had removed. Rules need to be followed,no matter what. There is no justice if the rules are violated by either side.

The other tragedy in this issue is that the church seems to follow the world’s example and act as unjustly and unfairly as the secular world does. This is wrong. The church needs to stand up and say to the world that the unbeliever is acting wrong and needs to correct itself. God is just,he is fair, he does not play favorites. The church cannot do differently than God. God loves the truth, justice, mercy thus the church must do so as well. They must break free of their fer of reprisals by the world and be consistent with God’s word and God.

They cannot let terms like molester, abuse, sexual harassment, and other emotionally biased terms to influence their thinking and judgment. Justice demands honest evaluation, not emotionally charged influenced opinion.

The church is the light to the world. That means they have to all aspects of life according to what God says to do. Following the secular world is not a God-given instruction. The church has to set the example correctly, honestly and properly. The world won’t and good men need the Church to stand up for them and keep allegations and other accusations in perspective. Allegations need real evidence before action can be taken. A woman’s word is not enough. Women lie, they do not remember clearly and may have a personal agenda for making those allegations. Real evidence,not  unproduced yearbooks,is required.

The Church has to set the world right. Innocent people need protection and only the church, truly following God can do that.

(one last word. Women also change they’re responses to past deeds. They were probably fully willing to participate at the time, but now that they see they can get a big payday their willing participation is changed to a negative.Women do not get a free pass for God, they should not be given one here. Their allegations, their testimony needs rigorous examination and real evidence must be presented to support their claims).

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