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God’s Stewards Should Be Treated Better

We title this way not because we experienced much if not more of what these men experience but because pastors have been selected by God to watch over his people. This act alone should produce a better attitude towards those who give up pursuing other employment to serve as God’s steward.

So we post the following story and link to also honor those men who struggle with meeting their daily responsibilities. It should not happen. Church people tend to ignore the fact that the verse íf you do it unto the least of these, you have done it unto me’ does not exclude pastors or their wives. How you treat pastors shows how you treat Christ.

https://www.christianpost.com/news/honoring-small-church-pastors-who-cant-always-pay-their-bills-on-time-222198/

Honoring Small Church Pastors, Who Can’t Always Pay Their Bills on Time

It is a shame on the church, the denomination, the congegration to have their pastors suffer like this. God’s stewards should not have to hang their heads in shame when their reputations are marred by the lack of funds. The church should do everything they can to make sure that their pastor can hold his head up high and meet his financial responsibilities. He should be able to take care of his family properly, without worry.

How the church treats its pastor sends a very bad message to the unchurched world. Who would want to be part of an organization that sings that God has money yet turns around and withholds some of that money from God’s servant. If you are wondering why churches are not making an impact for Christ, one place to look is how the church is treating its pastor.

Now, this does not mean that the pastor is given a luxurious lifestyle. Nor does it mean the pastor is given whatever he wants. Biblical instruction apply to the salary and perks of the pastoral office. BUT those biblical instructions do not teach that the pastor is made to work under starvation wages or gven so little that they can’t take care of their families like God would want.

If you look at the Bible you see that God set the example and his priests did not suffer in his service. A glimpse at the family life of John the Baptist’s parents tells us that they did not suffer financially. But we are not going to read into any passages here. In the OT God gave instructions on the care of his priests and we do not see underpaying as part of those instructions.

Just because God is to be the inheritance of the priest does not mean the congregation has an excuse to underpay pastors. The Bible is not to be used to sin against God’s stewards. Pastors and their families have physical needs that need to be met. They would also like to save a little money in case of any problems or emergencies arise. And on it goes. Pastors and their wives are not slaves, they are not free worker to be abused by their congregations.

They are God’s steward and they deserve the respect that goes with that calling.

Obviously there are biblical exceptions here but that is a topic for another day. Suffice it to say that even when pastors act badly, they should not be deprived of a living salary till they are discharged from employment.

One thought that has come to mind as we write this.  It would be wonderful if the mega churches stopped spending a lot of their millions on frivolous things and put together a fund to help those pastors who do not receive enough of an income. The church in general should be setting the example of how to take care of one another instead of being an example of how to kill their wounded.

Pastors are God’s chosen people, and this is a men’s position only, they need to be treated like the Bible describes for they are not excluded from any verse found in the Bible. Loving your neighbor includes loving your pastor enough to financially support them correctly.

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Some Things Cannot Be Corrected

https://www.christianpost.com/news/ohio-sued-refusing-allow-transgender-people-correct-birth-certificates-222422/

Throughout the complaint, the plaintiffs insist that the sex on their birth certificates be “corrected.”

If you read the story, you will see that the arguments do not hold any weight. What makes them worse is that these arguments are not founded on real science but on the 1st ammendment. It is not that we are cherry picking our use of science in this issue. We have long stated that secular science does get some things right. God gave us the tool of science to understand what God did at creation when he spoke everything into existence.

God did not give us the tool of science to say he and the Bible were wrong. Those who do use science in that manner are usually deceived, misguided or misinformed. The arguments used by those lawyers and transgender people have no evidence to support them. Just look at the term ‘çorrected’.  That word implies that a mistake was made.

This is a major problem for the transgender because their gender identity goes by feeling, not by any hard evidence. There is evidence that a gender mistake was made at birth. To continue this line of thinking the transgender community would have to prove that there is a processs in existence that governs who is given which gender at birth. Then they would have to prove that there was a mistake made somewhere in that process. Tha is of course if they could figure out how that process truly works and define what a mistake is in that process.

So far no such proof has been offered by the transgender community. Nor can they show that gender assignment is arbitrarily done by some outside fallible source that is prone to make errors in their gender duties.  To be able to correct something, a mistake has to be actually found and clearly proven to be a mistake. That has not been done by the transgender community either.

They want to skip that evidence part because it gets in the way of their practicing their delusional beliefs. The only mistake that has been made is the supposed transgender believing there was a mistake made at birth.

The government’s position is therefore an infringement on their free speech rights guaranteed by the first Amendment, the lawsuit maintains.

The next mstake taking place is the idea that the 1st amendment  trumps factual record. So far no legal expert has been able to show that it does. Government records are governed by laws, not feelings. As far as our legal studies have shown us, the first amendment does not overrule official recording laws. There is no attempt to violate the free speech of transgender people by recording their actual gender.

This move is just the next step in deceiving themselves into thinking they are something other than the gender they were born as. They want government records to lie so they can continue acting like the fool and feel good about mutilating their bodies.

Lambda and the ACLU also argued that Ohio’s refusal amounts to an “ideological message” that gender is only based on the outward appearance of genitalia at birth and is something that never changes.

Another faulty argument by the transgender’s lawyer team. Oh and if you read up on the ACLu, they are only interested in rights not right and wrong or what is true. They do more to mess up this country than any other law firm. There is no ideological message being sent by Ohio by recording the actual birth gender on an official government document.

The document clearly states the truth of the birth. Their argument that the gender listed on the birth certificate is based on outward gentilia is preposperous because it ignores actual science and genetics. The outward genitilla is a result of the actual genes one has inside their bodies. It is also a result of the interior body parts that reside in specific genders.

A side not here- we are well aware of the issue of cisgenders. BUT cisgenders and other similar abnormalities are a result of the corruption that entered the world at Adam’s sin. They demonstrate that gender issues are not immune to that corruption. It is not an indication of evolution in progress nor that some fallible msysterious process made an error.

Back to topic, in other words, outer genitilla does not determine the gender of a person. It goes deeper than that and includes genes, reproductive organs and much more. Gender identity is not based on feeling. It is based on actual fact.

In February, the group sued the state of Alabama for discrimination, contending that the state’s policy restricting access to driver’s licenses that “accurately reflect” gender identity for transgender people places them “at increased risk for violence and harassment.”

We should mention that when you tell the truth, no discrimination is taking place. By requiring that the truth be told on an official government document is not discriminating against someone. It is demonstrating the fact that the person complaining has a mental or other problem that requires professional counseling. The problem does not lie with the State but with those who reject their actual gender.

The only people putting themselves at risk for violence and harassment are the transgender themselves. They are publicly demonstrating that they reject reality, facts and the truth and continue to force people to accept their disturbed conclusions. No factual record is doing that to anyone. If anything those factual records are making the transgender face reality and that the responsibility for what happens to them is on their shoulers not the government’s.

There is more in that article but we will not address that here. What needs to be addressed is how this applies to the church in general. First, the church should not be siding or supporting the transgender agenda. Transgenderism is wrong, sin and not of God. While we treat the transgendered person according to biblical teaching, we do not support nor accept thir evil ways.

Second, the church should be supporting the government when they stand for the truth. They should not be helping transgenders undermine factual records. Third, the chrch should be helping the transgender face the truth about themselves and gender issues. The church should not be accepting any false arguments or teachings on this or any issue.

Fourth, the church should understand ‘rights’ and how they apply to all people and not just a few. It should also be aware that rights undermine morality, good and evil and right and wrong. Fifth, the chuch needs to use the whole Bible in its ministry and not cherry picked verses which leads Christians and churches to accept and adopt sinful behavior. Loving our neighbor does not mean we love and accept sin. Love does not keep people in their sins.

Finally, the church must stand correctly with God inspite of the backlash that may come from unbelievers. Unbelievers offer the church nothing but destruction. Their preferences do not help the church. The church is designed to help the unbeliever become free from their sins. The church follows God not the secular world.

The church needs to make a stand and be the light to the dark world. It cannotbe the light when thei rlight is darkened by their acceptance of sin.

 

We Save Who We Can

We are posting this to honor a man who risked his life to save who he could

http://nationalpost.com/news/world/johan-van-hulst-dutch-schoolteacher-who-saved-hundreds-of-jewish-children-during-holocaust-dies-at-107

Van Hulst, who was credited with saving more than 600 Jewish babies and children during the Second World War and, in 1972, was named Righteous Among the Nations by the Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial centre in Jerusalem, died March 22 in Amsterdam. He was 107.

There have been others like him as well. They contributed mightily to the world at a time when the world was united against one man. That time actually has never disappeared as there are many evil men and women in the world today harming God’s human creation. There are plenty of opportunities for Christians to make a healthy contribution to the world by helping those in danger.

Not everyone is called by God to preach, to be a minister or missionary. Some are called to do the hard work of risking their lives to physically rescue those in danger of losing theirs. God will still get the glory if it is done right. People will still come to know Jesus as their savior even if the tract or gospel message is excluded from their activities.

This kind of action is not about awareness but actually doing something about the situation. You may think that this is part of the dreaded Social Gospel but without the Social Gospel, you would not have seeds planted that can be watered, then harvested. There are a lot of scripture verses we could quote here but we do not want to guilt or manipulate anyone into doing something that God may not have called them to do.

We want them to be inspired by those who did this work generations ago. Then we want them to seriously consider what God has said in his word and finally, go in their prayer closets and look to God for leading, help, strength and opportunity. The world needs true Christians to step up and get involved in more than just saying the four spiritual laws, etc.; The world needs Christians to risk their lives for them.

If you need one example of what solitary Christians can do, then read up on Wilberforce He fought against slavery and won. So did many other believers. But the world being like it is, full of evil, slavery did not go away. This means we need more true believers to pick up the fight and carry it on.There are people in danger who need to see that God cares about them.

The only way they see Him and that is if true Christians get involved correctly. God has chosen to use us. Let’s not send that duty back to God but stand up and be counted.

 

In The News 26

#1. Easter Message

You will notice that we did not place an Easter message up on our board this week. It is not that we do not honor Christ, his sacrifice or resurrection, we do. One reason why is that everyone is doing it. Of course, we may be exaggerating here as we have not checked every single post, blog and news story on the internet. But we also know that churches have Easter services and some people in this country go to extremes to show their faith and spirituality.

Sadly that last group and most people ignore what Jesus taught about being spiritual. He said if you love me keep my commandments. He did not say t do a lot of the practices you read about in the news. Another reason we have not placed an Easter message here is that we have come to the belief that a festival is not what Jesus had in mind when he said- do this in remembrance of me.

Jesus’ death and resurrection celebration was not meant to be something that annoyed the neighbors or allowed false teaching to enter the church. He instituted communion, not a festival and communion is a private affair for believers to renew their faith, gain hope and spiritual strength. It is not a very public celebration violating the rights of those who do not believe.

While it is nice to have a great turkey or ham dinner with family or friends, we need to remember that God’s way is not our way.

#2. Tattoos

https://www.christianpost.com/news/joyce-meyer-defends-tattoos-says-she-might-get-one-to-make-religious-people-mad-222210/

https://www.christianpost.com/news/carl-lentz-says-old-testament-passage-forbidding-tattoos-does-not-apply-today-208481/

It seems that just about anyone will find an excuse to violate scripture in some way. The first article has Meyers thinking of getting one just to make people like us angry. That is doing something for the wrong reason. The second article shows how people will use personal preference and desire to ignore what God has commanded.

We do not see the ban on  tattoos lifted in the NT. We do have the command to keep our bodies, the temple of God pure. This command would continue the ban.1 Corinthians 6:18-20 is very clear and would include tattoos.

Of course, we dont see the value of getting a tattoo or why people think they are so great. Tattoos just sit there making your skin look ugly.

#3. Sanctuary

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/e9fd8393-85dd-35fa-afd4-bdc2f4c1d01d/ss_tammy-bruce%3A-poor-california.html

Tammy Bruce: Poor California — Democrats are turning the state into a major nightmare

It seems that the politicians of California and some of the major liberal thinkers have lost sight of what the term sanctuary means. The original definition of the term meant a place of refuge or safety– It was a place to escape injustice until true justice could be applied to the problem involved.  See Josh. 20 as one reference. Now it seems that the politicians of California and their supporters want the term to mean a place to go to violate the law or to continue to violate the law. This is not right.

No justice is being done here with the modern use of the sanctuary city. What is being done is one group of people using the term to push their personal preference over the law of the land and that is not right.Christians need to be discerning in this issue. The verse that tells us to obey our government does not mean we violate the law and ignore God’s rules in these issues. If the government, the politicians and their supporters are sinning and violating the law then it is up to the Christian to point the way to the truth. Not jump on the bandwagon and support sin.

But this issue is far deeper than we have space to deal with here. There is nothing wrong with protecting people who need real justice, not a subjective human interpretation  of the term. But there is something wrong when believers stand up and support sin. The illegal immigrant must see the error of their ways not be told they have a right to invade another country by bypassing that country’s laws and legal system.

By the way, sanctuary cities are a OT teaching. You cannot cherry pick one OT instruction because you like it and ignore another because it goes against your personal desires.

#4. School Shooting Protesters

https://www.yahoo.com/news/advertisers-drop-laura-ingrahams-fox-news-show-david-hogg-tweet-185137268.html

More advertisers drop Laura Ingraham’s Fox News show over David Hogg tweet

Being a bully to try to stop supposed bullying is not a smart move. We are not talking about Ms. Ingraham here. We did not find her tweet as claimed by those it targeted. It may not have been the smartest thing to do but it was not bullying. What could be considered bullying and some other terrible acts is the following quote:

When you come against any one of us, whether it be me or anybody else, you’re coming against all of us,” he said on CNN’s New Day on Friday. “They cannot push us around, especially when all we’re trying to do here is save lives.”

We see no life saving in their protesting effort. They target guns only and as some people have pointed out in the various comment sections, these people are ignoring so many issues about the safety of lives. They do not address those teens who text and drive and have injured or killed others; they do not address the knife attacks that have injured or killed many others and on it goes. They are not trying to save lives but use the school shootings for their own personal purposes.

When you have hypocrisy as the foundation of your movement, then you have nothing to say to anyone. We say this because we do see bullying on the part of Hogg and his fellow protestors. Their denial of free speech to those who disagree with them is just one key element that undermines their protest. It also demonstrates their willingness to bully those who dare to stand up against their movement and speak against them. Neither of those last acts are against the law.

The Christian should not be traumatized by school shootings nor should they be ignoring God’s word to look like they are ‘doing something’ to stop the problem. School shootings are sin, they are murder and there are laws already in place to handle these events. We should be the light unto the dark world and make sure that true justice, fairness and mercy are kept throughout the investigation and legal proceedings.

We should also be working to make sure subjective emotion does not usurp or pervert justice and so on. We should also make sure that people like Hogg and his fellow protesters do not violate or remove the rights of those who oppose them. Fairness, justice, freedoms and mercy is a two-way street.

#5. Persecution

https://www.christianpost.com/news/muslim-relatives-douse-christian-convert-hot-oil-after-giving-life-christ-uganda-222096/

Muslim Relatives Douse Christian Convert in Hot Oil After Giving Life to Christ in Uganda

Why are we reading about so many believers being persecuted? Why are there so many instances where believers are being attacked by those who do not believe in God and Jesus?

These two questions may be on the minds of many believers and there is a simple answer to them. Evil is working to remove the light from the world so it can continue to destroy God’s human creation. Remove the light, no one hears the good news or learns about Jesus.

What can be done about this? First, believers should not be afraid. The Bible tells us that love casts out fear. So if we love God we should not be afraid when persecution or death comes. Persecution is nothing to be afraid of and it does not violate our right to practice our Christian beliefs.

Second, we need to pray. Not only to bind evil in these matters but to bring help to those we cannot reach.We also need to pray to see what God wants us to do to properly respond to the problem. Returning good for evil is one step that needs to be taken. Getting wisdom to handle the issue is another

Third, we need to take the right action and get serious about our faith. We need to put down the Christian games, the Christian subjectivity, the Christian interpretation and stop working against God.

Fourth, we need to get prepared for what comes our way and learn how to handle it correctly. No whining, no crying, no whatever. We are soldiers for Christ and we need to grow up and act like it. Even in terrible situations.

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These topics are but a few of the events that are in the news today. They remind of us of what Paul said in 2 Tim. 3:13-

 But evil men and impostors will proceed from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.

We can only counteract this process by doing what God wants correctly. Remember it is not humans who are our enemies.

 

Is It Selfish To Not Want Children 2

We want to address this issue a bit more because we need to turn the question around and address an aspect of the topic ignored by Mr. Piper in his response to the issue. We want to ask the question, are some people being selfish towards God because they want to have a family over serving him? This is an important factor in this issue. We ask this question because Mr. Piper ended the article with the idea that God loves big families.

We find that attitude a little unfair as it implies that God does not love those couples who have small families or are incapable of having children. These couples may get the idea that they are inferior to those whose family members reach 19 or 20 and that number just includes the children. His statement is providing a distorted view of God and his love towards those who  follow him.

We must remember that John the Baptist’s father was not deprived of any spiritual success or respect because he and his wife were childless. He was still given the honor of entering the holy of holies even before his wife was impregnated. Being incapable of having children does not deprive anyone of their spiritual status, especially if they are obeying God’s commands correctly.

To impose a standard on humans that God does not impose is wrong and very dangerous. The idea that all couples must reproduce ignores God’s will for the lives of those couples who cannot have children and those couples who have decided to restrict their reproduction so they can serve God better. Mr. Piper also mentioned in the article the following verse

God says that is “not good” that man be alone

But that verse does not refer to having children. It refers directly to having a wife. You will notice that when God said that, he did not bring children into the world at that moment. He brought the man a helpmeet, a wife. Is children part of that command, we are not sure but an argument could be made to support that idea. We side with that it does not.

What brings us to readdress this subject is a Facebook post we saw a few weeks ago. The post was about a young girl who believed in God and who prayed about getting some belt or dress she wanted. She was so excited when she got it at a discount as well. The post then went to a picture of a starving African child who said to God, its okay God I am good. As long as she has her dress or belt…

That is the gist of the post and the meaning is well taken. Some Christians are selfish, superficial and have no idea about the world or what they should be  doing for Christ. We are not talking about guilt laden actions here either. But believers should clearly look at the question that started this article- are some people being selfish towards God because they want to have a family over serving him?

It is a question that deserves serious discussion because there is a world of problems that need the attention of well-trained biblically correct believers. We cannot save everyone or solve every problem but we can make a big dent in the different issues if believers got over their selfishness and personal desires, even having large families, and turned their minds to doing God’s work.

In other words, it does not matter if believers have many children, a few children or no children, God has a place for all couples in his service. A couple who decided to forgo reproduction in  order to serve God better are not breaking any commandments or biblical laws. They are putting God first in their lives and their own desires second. This does not mean that those couples who have children are breaking any of God’s laws or commands either. The world still needs couples to raise children to be the light unto a dark world.

In other words, believers need to stop being distracted by unimportant topics like this. They need to stop hindering the work of the Spirit by imposing their personal views on other believers. They need to stop hurting other Christians by trying to force them into their personal paths in life. If you feel led to have children, fine but that leading is not extended to another couple. God may have other plans for them.

Stop letting evil disrupt the church by letting these foolish issues bring harm to God’s people and work. It is not selfish to not want a lot of children, or to have none at all.Unless selfish reasons do play a role in the decision-making. It is wrong to judge couples because their children decisions do not match up with other believers’ ideas. As long as those decisions are done with sound biblical reasons, no one can stand in judgment of those childless couples.

Their desire to serve God wholly should be commended and supported. They should not be ostracized or made to feel less of a believer. Stop letting evil get an entryway into the church and ruin its ministry for God.

 

 

Is It Selfish To Not Want Children

We came across the following story

https://www.christianpost.com/news/is-it-wrong-to-pray-to-not-get-pregnant-if-you-cant-handle-any-more-kids-222085/

the other day and we were not satisfied with the explanation given in that article. There seems to be a little confusion as to how to read God’s instructions when it comes to reproduction. There are some issues that enter into the discussion which cloud the the topic and provide too much stress and pressure on couples who think a little differently than otherchurch members

.Theologian John Piper is weighing in on whether or not it is selfish to pray against becoming pregnant due to the stress another child would bring.

One of those issues that cloud this topic is the subjective opinion from others. Their personal desires interfere with their bible reading and tend to let them be more emphatic when it comes to the issue of having children. They tend to think that since they love and want children, everyone should have them and that is not right. This pressure to have children is not biblical.and it causes problems in the individual congregations.

If a couple decides to not have children or have more kids, then it is no one else’s business. Sorry to be blunt but people are not given the right to dictate to other families and demand that their views override the views of the couple making the decision. There selfish reasons of course that couples use to avoid having children and those are usually easy to spot.

But there are legitimate reasons that fuel a couple’s decision to stop reproducing. We will not get into detail on any of those reasons. The following quote gives one of those legitimate reasons:

The mother said she loved her children but did not feel as though she could presently handle any more kids.

Then,

To suggest that wanting fewer children might be in keeping with biblical teaching strikes many as contradictory since the Bible explicitly describes them as a “blessing,” he said.

In the creation story in Genesis, God says that is “not good” that man be alone and that he would make a suitable helper for him, that the man would leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife, and become one flesh, and that they are to be fruitful and multiply and subdue the earth, Piper explained.

Not wanting children is not violating either biblical teaching contained in that quote. While children are a blessing, there is no command to have children and no instruction that couples must have children. Children are described as a blessing and not as a mandatory action. You will notice that many women mentioned in the Bible were childless. And while they prayed for children God did not punish them for disobeying the second command in that quote above.

Then before we can apply that verse to today’s world, we must make sure it is an instruction that still needs to be fulfilled. At last count, it seems that couples have more than filled this world and have multiplied quite well.

But tension emerges in light of the Apostle Paul’s words in 1 Corinthians 7, where he urges men in certain instances to remain single and not get married, which is “astonishing” counsel given God’s words that it is not good for men to be alone.

There is no tension as Mr Piper seems to think. Again, there is no command that every person or couple must have offspring. Paul is not telling people to disobey any biblical command or inistruction. In fact, Paul’s ministry did not suffer because he remained unmarried. God uses single people and childless couples and their work is not hindered because they do not meet the normal christian church requirement to have families.

Notice we said ‘normal christian church requirements’. This means that this idea that all couples must have and want children is not biblical but is more of a human idea than a spiritual one. If you want to appeal to Jesus, you will note that throughout the gospels, Jesus did not make a command compelling anyone to have children. In fact, he stated that if people loved their children more than him, they were not worthy of him.

That verse does not mean that parents are not to love their children, it means that parents stay with Jesus and his ways when their children do not.

The theologian recognized that his answer placed the burden on the mother of trying to know if her heart was in the right place and whether her reasons for not wanting another child are indeed godly

We disagree with Mr. Piper here. It is not solely the woman’s choice in this issue. It is a couple’s issue and it is their decision only. Remember the idea that it is a woman’s body and it is her choice to do with it as she sees fit is not a Christian or biblical teaching. The bible tells us very clearly that the bodies of the husband and wife belong to each other. The wife and the husband do not have control over their own bodies.

Any reproduction decision has to be made by the couple and no one else.This includes the issue of abortion. Of course, the couple can go get advice if they want. It is the couple who  have the responsibility for the child thus it is no one else’s business and they cannot dictate to the couple their own personal wishes. Then to make godly decisions, one must know exactly what the Bible is teaching  and not misuse or mis-apply biblical verses.

God knows your heart. He’s a merciful Father, and He loves children. But our having children is not His highest priority. His highest priority for His children is Christ-exalting faith and Christ-magnifying joy that overflows in meeting the needs of others. That’s His highest priority.”

This is a little general and a little unhelpful. Yes God loves children but he loves adults equally as well. His love granted everyone free choice in certain matters. That free choice includes the decision to have children or not. ‘Again, there is no verse stating that couples are less spiritual, less Christian and less faithful if they do not want to have children or do not want more children. Joseph only had two and he had them after he was freed from prison.

Our advice in this matter is for people to stop hindering the work of the Spirit by forcing their personal views on others. Couples are to take their marching orders from God not their fellow church members. Then let’s stop putting pressure on couples by speaking for God and limiting his love to certain groups:

He loves big families with lots and lots of children — but not for their own sake, but for Christ’s sake.

God also loves little families, the single person and the childless couples. We will not get into the financial burden the quoted attitude brings with it. Couples are free to have as many or as few children as they please. Salvation does not depend on how many children a couple have.

 

The Lord’s Anointed 2

We just want to add a special blurb to the previous article. In that article David’s attitude aboout Saul was mentioned. What we need to point out is that David maintained that same spirit and view of Saul even AFTER Saul turned bad. David held onto that attitude even after Saul tried to kill him.

Then this attitude of not hurting the Lord’s anointed did not call for blind obedience to Saul. Nor did it mean that David rejected men who wanted to follow and support him. He did not tell those men to follow Saul until he had passed on. David accepted support and followers but maintained that no matter how bad Saul was, he was not to be harmed. This included forbidding the removal of Saul’s employment.

In the case of Mars HIll, people outside of that church had no right to harm Mark Driscoll or call for his unemployment. Even if Mr. Driscoll had turned bad, they still did not have the right to interfere with those called to the ministry. Too often people think that they are in charge of the church and that the pastor is some lowly employee not worthy of anything above restroom cleaning.

This is not right. If Mars Hill people wanted to change pastors, that was up to them.  They were also free to leave the church but at no time were outsiders given the right to harm the Lord’s anointed. Now of course, we can argue about Mr. Driscoll’s spiritual status but that is a discussion for another day. The Bible provides instruction on how to identify false teachers and none of those instructions include personal preference or subjective identification.

Obviously people can be encouraged to leave a church guided and lead by a false teacher but we do draw the line at firing those errant men and women. That would be up to the church to do after some soul-searching and making sure the pastor was truly in error.

We are not the ones who call a pastor to ministry. We need to be careful that we do not tread on God’s domain in this matter. We need to make sure we are truly following God’s instructions before bringing any harm to his anointed stewards of each congregation

 
 
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