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Evidence for Noah’s Flood

20 Jun

Over the years I have been involved in many debates about Noah’s flood and I have been challenged numerous times to provide evidence for it.  One militant atheist even said to ‘go get a shovel and start digging.’

But where does one begin to search to find evidence? After all, the flood took place approx. 5,000 years ago, give or take a century or two. Since Noah’s flood occurred many other events have transpired that would erase any evidence for a global flood. Plus the fact that since there has been only 1 such catastrophe, what would the evidence look like? How would it differ from a large local flood?

Geologically, I would conclude that the global flood would not look any different than a large local one. Since no one is alive now to compare the pre-flood geography with the post flood one, and since no one is alive who actually saw both sets of geography, we really do not have a clue as to what most of the evidence would look like.

Keep in mind that over those 5 millennia there has been countless amounts of construction, farming, wars, earthquakes, landslides, storms, (thunder, typhoons, tornados, etc.) and so much more that to even think we could find a worldwide uniform stratigraphical layer for the flood is just ridiculous. If it was even laid down uniformly, and the following will show that it wasn’t, where would we begin to dig and how deep should we go?

Also, even if we found the actual ark, how could we prove it was Noah’s? Plus the skeptic would always find some excuse to dismiss the discovery (as they do the following evidence) simply because they really do not want to believe. Thus the evidence placed here is for the believer; to strengthen their faith and to remove doubt about the Genesis flood account.

We have clues found in scripture but most of the unbelieving world does not accept scripture verses as evidence, even though they are, but the believer does and with the scriptures to guide us we can look around today at what is discovered, put the pieces together and conclude that evidence for a global flood does exist.

One big clue are the massive amounts of flood myths that exist in every culture today and those will be mentioned briefly later plus a link to them all will be provided for further study. It does not matter if they are close to the biblical account or not, they do not have to be, the fact that they exist shows that Noah’s flood took place. (It would be a very high coincidence for 148+/- civilizations to all have one flood in their history which they created a myth for, dating far back into time. Since they do, these flood myths also provide evidence for the scattering from Babel).

What follows are just snippets of information as whole books and articles cannot be reproduced here. Bibliography data and links are provided so the reader can do more research on their own. The numbers beside some of the paragraphs correspond to the numbers beside the links they are quoted from. A couple of links without numbers are provided just for research purposes and were not quoted. The best evidence comes from the 3 books below the quotes from the links.

  1. Evidence of the Great Flood

In 1929, while excavating in the city of Ur, Woolley observed a thick layer of sediment that was covering the whole valley. Woolley believed that the layer was evidence that the Biblical story of the Great Flood was correct. He argued that flood was not universal—that it did not literally cover the whole world—but only the valley of the Euphrates and Tigris rivers:

This deluge was not universal, but a local disaster confined to the lower valley of the Tigris and Euphrates, affecting an area perhaps 400 miles long and 100 miles wide; but for the occupants of the valley that was the whole world (Ur of the Chaldees: A Record of Seven Years of Excavation: 31).

In addition, added Woolley, according to Sumerian records in the Gilgamesh epic, some of the cities of the valley survived the flood. Woolley’s discovery was soon connected to other similar discoveries, especially the remains of the city of Kish. Theologians and people of faith used this as the evidence to support the flood account in the Bible. Further research, however, has provided limited evidence to this theory, claiming that sediments found by Woolley were extremely local, not even covering the whole of the city of Ur. Evidence for the Great Flood thus remains controversial.

  1. The Sumerian King List

The Sumerian King’s list also contains a reference to the Flood (Mallowan, 1964, pp. 67-69; Kramer, 1967, pp. 12-13). The King List is a complex document, existing in a number of different editions. Probably first composed about 2100 BCE and extant in an edition from about 1900 BCE, the King List purports to record the kings and dynasties of Mesopotamia from the time when first “kingship descended from heaven” until the time of composition. The list has many weaknesses. Early kings are credited with reigns of such fabulous length that Methuselah’s span seems reduced to insignificance, and a number of early dynasties that were in fact contemporary are listed as if they were sequential. Despite these defects, the Sumerian King List appears to preserve the names and sequences of many early real rulers, a number of whom are independently attested elsewhere. The King List claims that, after a number of antediluvian rulers, the Flood swept over everything, after which kingship once again “descended from heaven” and the list of dynasties and rulers resumes. Gilgamesh, hero of the epic, is listed long after the Flood. Thus, the evidence of both the King List and the Gilgamesh Epic, which has Gilgamesh listening to an account of the Flood, agree that he lived well after the Flood..

  1. The Flood Fact Or Fiction

In 1929 Sir Leonard Woolley, the famous excavator of Abraham’s city of Ur, claimed to have found evidence of Noah’s flood at Ur. In two different shafts he was able to show that civilization existed above a layer of sterile clay eight feet deep, with evidence of earlier civilization below the clay level. However, the clay was found in only two of the five shafts sunk, and Woolley himself did not find any similar evidence at Tell Obeid, only four miles away.

Soon after Woolley’s discovery similar levels were found at other sites in ancient Mesopotamia, notably at Tell Fara which is half-way between Ur and Babylon, and at Kish, as well as at Nineveh to the north. The dates were different from Woolley’s find at Ur, and so they could not be from the same inundation. More recently Professor M. E. L. Mallowan has suggested that the inundation at Tell Fara might be the Biblical flood, and that the findings at Kish could relate to the same disaster. However, the evidence is inconclusive

  1. The Mediterranean Flood

It is not the purpose of this paper to attempt a thorough review of previous flood theories. Others have written excellent reviews of the struggle between science and Scripture over the past few centuries and the reader can consult them.2 The important and obvious fact is that modern geology has totally rejected the concept of the global flood and this rejection has important consequences for the authority of Scripture. It is difficult, at least for me, to conceive of a divinely inspired Genesis being historically accurate in chapters 1-3 and historically false in chapters 6-9. It follows from the claim of divine inspiration that both sections are true or both are false.

  1. Flood Stories from Around the World

The stories below are flood stories from the world’s folklore. I have included stories here if (1) they are stories; (2) they are folklore, not historical accounts or fiction by a known author; and (3) they involve a flood. In most borderline cases, I included the story here anyway. For example, one story (Hopi) tells of a flood which was avoided and never occurred.

 

Excerpts from 3 Books

  1. The Flood by Dr. Rehwinkel pgs. 178ff:

Human reason was made the measure of all things. Whatever could not be harmonized with reason was rejected. Even the Bible was subjected to this treatment. This meant the removal, as acceptable truth, of everything which partook of the miraculous or of any direct interference with the affairs of men or the universe on the part of a personal, omnipotent God

In biology, Rationalism led to the revival of the ancient Greek theory of evolution as an explanation of the origin of the life that is found in the universe. The Biblical flood story could, of course, not be made to fit into such a mechanistic scheme any more than the story of Creation as related in Genesis…the modern theory of geology, which is evolutionistic in its basic principle, took their place. And yet even modern geology and other sciences have unwittingly contributed much to confirm the Biblical account of the Flood…

…The evidence of such fissures have been found in so many places of the earth, some of them measuring from 140 to 300 feet in depth. They were filled with debris which drifted into them soon after they opened…Such fissures have been found in England, France, southern Spain, Germany, Russia and elsewhere. The interesting feature of these fissures is the debris found in them, for they are filled with the remains of animals, among them those of the elephant, the rhinoceros, the hippopotamus, the reindeer, the horse, the hog, and the ox.. The bones found in them cannot be animals which fell in alive or were buried there, for no skeleton is complete. They cannot have been brought there by streams, for those who examined them found no signs on them of having been rolled. Neither could the bones have been exposed to the weather for a long time, for none of them show marks of weathering…

Again, it has been observed by such a competent geologist as Prestwich that these ossiferous fissures are usually found upon isolated hills of considerable height, places on which we might expect animals to gather in seeking safety from an approaching flood…

  1. Path of the Poles by Dr. Charles Hapgood pages 280ff:

The evidence from South America will be found as strong or even stronger. In this chapter we shall present a number of aspects of this evidence. They include evidence of a geological revolution having to do not so much with ice caps and ice ages as with the upheaval of half a continent in which the deaths of millions of animals resulted from extensive volcanic eruptions and vast floods.

Outstanding among the unsolved problems of the recent geological history of South America are those connected with the part of Cordellera where Bolivia and Peru meet. There, in the heart of the Andes at an average of 12,300 ft. , extends the highest lacustrine basin in the world, the Meseta or Altiplano, on the floor of which occurs a succession of remarkable lakes. The largest of these, Lake Titicaca, is navigable, being some 110 miles long, 35 miles wide and 890 feet deep at its maximum. Its waters are only slightly brackish and support the only species of seahorse (Hippocampus) known to live in a land locked body of water. Hippocampo is a typically marine creature and with Allorchestes and a few other oceanic forms inhabiting this lake, strongly suggests that the present fauna of Lake Titicaca has survived from a time when the lake communicated directly with the ocean.

The discoveries of vast quantities of animal remains in almost every part of South America have invariably been made in recent formations…Burmeister says, “the diluvial deposits containing bones of animals of this age extends over the whole Brazilian plain, from the flanks of the Cordilleras to the borders of the Atlantic.” They have also been found abundantly in Bolivia on the great plateau; and also west of the mountains both in Peru and Chili…A contemporary, Augistin de Zarate, probably referred to the same discovery when he mentioned that Juan de Holmos, a native of Truxillo, excavating near that place, exhumed enormous teeth, a huge rib, and other bones, all of which were, of course, assigned to the legendary giants.

The block contained a human skull, teeth and other bones, together with fragments of shells, some of which still retained traces of their original colors. Remains of several hundred other human skeletons were dug out of similar clacareous tufa at the same place where the presence of serpulae in the rock suggested that all the remains were deposited through marine action, for as Lyell observed the shell would not have been brought so far inland by natives for food

In a limestone cavern on the borders of the Lagoa do Sumidouro, some three leagues from Santa Lucia, Dr. P.W.Lund excavated the bones of more than thirty individuals (human) of both sexes and various ages. The skeletons lay buried in hard clay and were found mixed together in such great confusion- not only with one another but with the remains of the Meatherium and other Pleistocene mammals- as to preclude the idea that they had been entombed by the hand of man. All the bones, whether human or animal, showed evidence of having been contemporary with one another.. In other caves investigated by Lund, bones of ancient man were found alongside those of the formidable Smilodon, a giantfeline which became extinct during the last Pleistocene times. Referring to the evidence from these and other Brazilian fossiliferous caves, the marquis de Nadaillac wrote: “…doubtless these men and animals lived together and perished together, common victims of catastrophes, the time and cause of which are alike unknown.”

Two further cases are of particular interest. The first of these concerns the discovery, by Savage-Landor, of the remains of primitive humanoid mammals, associated with the bones of creatures regarded by him as gigantic saurians, in volcanic ash and lava deposits encountered in Matto Grosso State. The second case relates to the occurrence of the remains of mastodons, camels and an extinct species of horse in beds of volcanic ash high in the Andes near Punin in Ecuador. Associated with those mammalian bones was the fossilized skull of a woman of Australoid type…The presence of an Australoid type in Ecuadorian South America during geological recent times poses questions about prehistoric human populations in the continent…

There is more but the evolutionist must read it for themselves. I submit that the continual discoveries of supposed new species by evolutionists are merely a desperation move to distract the world from the real evidence that has been discovered over the centuries.

  1. Noah’s Flood by Ryan & Pitman, pgs. 65, 81, 99-100, 190, 191, 197-8,

The Turkish chief hydrographer began to tell the Americans that as far back as the Persian invasions of Byzantium in the early seventh century, there had been knowledge of another current  flowing in the opposite direction to the surface current and lying below it…But now Ryan was confused. He had expected Cita and Hsu to concur that the rock fragments and shells had been swept to the floor of the deep sea in watery avalanches. Instead it seemed that they thought these rocks had formed and the dwarfed creatures had lived right where they had been cored. Shallow lagoons on the floor of the Mediterranean Sea…

 

…And what became of those [animals] in the way of the flood, asked Dewey. Ryan thought for a minute. He then responded, ‘Charles Lyell reported a whole bunch of mammals suddenly appearing out of nowhere on the Mediterranean islands, such as Sicily, Sardina, and Malta. Maria Cita mentioned this to me on the Glomar Challenger. There elephants and hippos in Cyprus and Crete. In scrambling to high ground in response to the flood they arrived in places they had never been before…

 

…Curiously, all the Vinca settlements are located well back from the sea. Only in the European interior, on the Hungarian plain, within the protective ring of the surrounding mountains, did they live on landscape below an elevation of three hundred feet. Could it be that they had experienced the catastrophe of the flood and feared the sea?…Like the Vinca, the Linearbandkeramik, never put down permanent roots near a sea coast. They never colonized fertile land in in the coastal regions of northern Europe. Neither did they settle along the post flood coast of the Black Sea, stretching from Turkey through Bulgaria, Romania, Moldavia, Ukraine, and Russia…&…

 

…People called Hamangians also seemed to emerge out of nowhere to settle in the region of coastal Bulgaria…In recent years archaeologists have reported the sudden appearance of advanced farmers along the Rioni River in Transcaucasia, midway between the Black and Caspian seas. With no precedent, no roots, and seemingly without forebears, they built a town of mud brick buildings… The Sumerian view of their own alien past is expressed in their ‘Poem of the Supersage’. In which the Great Flood marked the end of mythological time and the inauguration of historical time…

 

Links: You may have to copy and paste these ones.

 

  1. http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Leonard_Woolley

 

  1. http://ncse.com/cej/8/2/flood-mesopotamian-archaeological-evidence

 

  1. http://www.the-highway.com/flood_Wilson.html

 

  1. http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/1997/PSCF12-97Morton.html

 

  1. http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html

 

 

http://www.institutfuerglaubeundwissenschaft.de/texte/en/dnvak5xp.Flood.pdf

 

http://hope-of-israel.org/flood.html

 

http://www.ldolphin.org/cisflood.html

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdby9Q_pQaM&feature=related

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGeULHljDn8

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