Much To Talk About- 150

15 Jul

#1. Open Eyes

When some scholars have disagreements with others, they don’t simply debate or publish differing opinions, they campaign to silence those with whom they disagree.  They do it by back channel contacts with Journal publishers and book publishers and to organizers of academic conferences.

Some academics whose names appear on books put their names on them, but their grad students do all the work whilst the high profile scholar gets all the credit.  It’s plagiarism, but they don’t mind.

Minorities and women have a better chance of getting an academic position than white males.  It’s reverse discrimination, but they don’t mind.  The gay asian woman can write her own ticket.

Papers at academic conferences are generally accepted only if they represent only very minor adjustments of the status quo.

Too many academics stand in front of their classroom and their lecture hall and read line by line off of a paper in front of them, scarcely looking up, and dutifully unconcerned about whether or not what they say makes sense, or means anything at all.

Too many academics take themselves far too seriously.

Too many academics take their work far too seriously.

Much academic work is done only to impress peers and rarely has any concern for either educating students or reaching out to the wider public with findings that actually matter.

Too often, believers do not look before they leap. They do not go into a situation with their eyes wide open and that is a mistake. We should not assume nor take for granted that just because someone is an academic, an expert, or even claiming to be a Christian they must have it all correct. I wouldn’t say everyone in academics is like West describes but we should not enter the academic world naive.

The Bible guides us in how to view others and how to protect ourselves from those who are less than honest in their professional lives and it is sad as I see many  scholars and professors who claimed to be former Christians point to the same problem for their loss of faith– they stopped listening to God and the Bible. God’s guidelines are not burdens but meant to protect us from those who are not true, mature believers. They are given so that we can see the reality of a situation and can then respond accordingly and they enable us to stay on the straight and narrow..

#2.What Do They Not Get About Salvation?

The message of the Great Commandment boils down to this:

God loves you. I love you. You are worthy of unqualified, absolute love.

The message of the Great Commission boils down to this:

You should stop believing whatever it is you believe and instead become a Christian.

When you combine those two messages—as every evangelizing Christians must—you get:

I love you. Now change.

Salvation means one changes or is changed by Jesus. One gives up their old life to receive something new. If a person is caught in a burning building, they do not make a fuss when the fireman comes to take them out of danger. A partial reason for that is the endangered person can see the flames and knows that he is in trouble but with spiritual danger, the one heading for destruction is blinded by evil so that they cannot see how much trouble they are really in. So they fight against the aid brought by the believer.

They do not believe that they are really in trouble and they will come up with distorted views of salvation and repentance. There is no demand to change with love, we love unbelievers whether they convert or not. The unbeliever misunderstands what the gospel message is all about and think that the believer is not showing them absolute love by asking the unbeliever to repent of their sins.

The believer is showing the unbeliever absolute love by telling them that they must repent of their sin if they want eternal life.  Trying to save people from destruction is an act of love, the unbeliever is just to deceived to see that.

#3. Giving Advice To Homosexual Children

Her parents outright rejected her, telling her that she was confused and just in “a phase.” They used words like abomination, and asked her to question where she thought she would be going when she died. They said that any form of homosexuality is unnatural, and refused to listen to how much pain she was in.

Obviously I object to everything John Shore said in that post because he assumes that homosexual tendencies are normal and just a part of life like heterosexual feelings. The first thing in talking to your children about their sexual preference is not to over-react. God is not going to smite you because of the decisions made by your children (unless you force them to make those decisions). Having a homosexual child is not a sin against you, so don’t get afraid that God is going to hurt you because your family is not perfect.

Second, instead of heaping hell fire and brimstone upon them, talk to your children to see if they are making the right determination and then lead them to the evil influence factor that may be upon their minds and give them a clear picture of what may be taking place. Homosexual tendencies are not natural but brought to people by evil as another tactic on their part to destroy members of God’s creation.

Third, being abusive is never going to help nor is closing your mind and ears to your children, you will only drive them further away. This is an issue where children need wise guidance and clear thinking as well as someone to help them work through it all. I have never liked those parents who have encouraged homosexual or transgender tendencies in young children. That is not being good parents but taking the sinful easy way out of a bad situation. It may take work to straighten out your children but they are worth it. You need to have the correct information and sometimes pastors and church leaders do not have it. You need to pray for guidance on where to get the knowledge and expertise you need to save your children from a life of pain and torment.

#4. But You Cannot Go Back

I’ve become increasingly troubled by the unintended consequences of messages that insist all LGBT people commit to lifelong celibacy. No matter how graciously it’s framed, that message tends to contribute to feelings of shame and alienation for gay Christians. It leaves folks feeling like love and acceptance are contingent upon them not-gay-marrying and not-falling-in-gay-love.

If they have been redeemed then returning to a homosexual practice, whether by marriage or other options, one becomes worse than they were before and that i snot something true Christians want to see happen in redeemed homosexuals lives. If the homosexual has truly repented of their sin of homosexuality then they should not be marginalized nor forced to live celibate, they can marry the opposite gender if they want.

So what troubles me when I read words like the ones in that quote is, it seems that the supposed homosexual Christian has not truly given up their same-sex desires. They were not made new creatures and that is the source of their problems not the church’s policy of forced celibacy or whatever policy they may have. They are still hanging on to their homosexual preference in some way.

Just another day in the continued retrenchment of evangelical institutions. Sadly, these separations and departures equate to fewer voices on behalf of God’s inclusive grace and fewer advocates for the full humanity of all persons

It is unfair to blame the churches for the problems faced by those who claim to have been saved by Jesus yet still identify as their old sinful self. The churches must abide by God’s instructions and do not have authority to alter them in any way without permission from God. It is better to tell the homosexual person to check to see if their redemption was real and seek help if it wasn’t as it is not the church keeping the person in their homosexual status.

#5. It Is the People Who Change

He points to the recent admission of Brandon Withrow, who resigned his faculty position from a Christian seminary (Winebrenner Theological Seminary) because he simply no longer identified with the faith perspective of the school. As Withrow explained, his intellectual processing over the years led him to disconnect from the Christian religion; he had become a “none.”

I spoke on this issue yesterday it is important enough to touch upon again.  Christ and God are not going to change simply because humans cannot accept or feel comfortable with their position on what is the Christian faith.  God has provided us with enough instructions, revelation, commands and even help to make sure that we do not fall by the way side yet as Jesus said, ‘few find the straight and narrow.’

As you can see by that quote, Mr. Withrow exercised his right of free choice and withdrew from the faith. It wasn’t God or Jesus who kicked him out. I am betting that if I were to read more of his story, his problem would be the same as all the rest–he stopped listening to God and started to listen to evil. Again, it is not the institution’s fault for his decision, they exercised their right of free choice and chose to remain with God thus Mr. Withrow’s disconnect  is his responsibility.

For many of us who are observing the wranglings in evangelical higher education, it’s a strange phenomenon. The retrenchment into conservative positions and the elimination of dissenting voices seems like a bad strategy for so many reasons

No it is not bad strategy because we do not change our faith because someone else doe snot want to believe it any more. Nor do we change it to raise our attendance. As we look at Jesus’s life on earth, we see him not changing one word after many departed from following him. His message is the truth and the truth never needs changing, it is the attitude and expectation of the person that needs to change.

#6. They Are So Mistaken

The Bible is many wonderful things, but it is not the Word of God’

Then where do we find the words of God to guide our lives, instruct us, protect us from evil and so on? Jesus is not here on earth any more and he does not send us personal messages dictating to us what to do in each situation we face and s on. So if the Bible is not the word of God then where do we go to find his word?  Jesus himself said, if you love me keep my commandments. Yet if the Bible is not the word of God then we do not have to believe or accept those words (That is according to their logic).

We see people like Mr. Francisco saying these things because they do not want to humble themselves and obey God nor follow his instructions to the church. In other words, they want to be masters of the church and not servants in the church.Under their logic, anything goes in the church and you cannot eject those church leaders or members who abuse others because there is no word of God to follow.

Obeying the Bible is not making it an idol nor is it worshiping it. It is searching to find what God wants us to do so that we please him and find eternal life. Contrary to what CS Lewis says in the quote in that post, the bible is the word of God because God wrote it and we must believe it and then follow the HS to the truth and the correct application of God’s word. If that means using scripture verses to oppose certain sinful actions then so be it, that is what we are supposed to do.

But in general, we emphasize, as Francisco does, that the Bible does not present itself as the Word of God, and in the New Testament, in places, points to the life of Jesus as embodying God’s Word in a way that no text ever has or could.

It seems that the Bible disagrees with McGrath :

Now, O Israel, listen to the statutes and the judgments which I am teaching you to perform, so that you may live and go in and take possession of the land which the Lord, the God of your fathers, is giving you. (Deut. 4:1)

are joining with their kinsmen, their nobles, and are taking on themselves a curse and an oath to walk in God’s law, which was given through Moses, God’s servant, and to keep and to observe all the commandments of God our Lord, and His ordinances and His statutes; (Neh. 10 :29)

All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;(2 Tim. 3:16)


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