Much To Talk About- 104

04 Mar

#1. Finding Jesus

Scroll down to the second last post, then read the next two to get a recap of this Shroud of Turin Episode. I was far from impressed by the presentation.  Others have waded in on the show

While not having a TV, due to reports such as the CNN Jesus Shroud report,, I viewed it on line. I had hoped for something different as there were three names I recognized as having some credibility, however whereas they have credibility as biblical scholars, what appeared in the 59 minutes had to fall into one of the most misinformed Shroud of Turin reports I have seen in decades. I will leave theological matters to theologians, but from a historical Jesus, archaeological/anthropological perspective, which they try to achieve, even claiming that it is an archaeological relic, it shows how misinformed the report is. I had expected more from Wolf Blitzer, one of the executives of CNN who interviewed me on the topic of crucifixion in the 70’s when he was posted in Jerusalem, working for Reuters.

He makes 9 points and the one I like the most is:

Secondly, the segment in which the art historian showed that the image could have been placed on the cloth using what is called camera obscura, is, in my opinion, important.

Jim West gives his opinion here:

The shroud of Turin is featured in this opening segment of the series.  I’ll be viewing it and ‘live blogging’ (as it were) – updating during commercial breaks.

My name is Mark Goodacre, and I am a professor of New Testament and Christian origins in the Department of Religious Studies at Duke University. I was series adviser and one of many on-camera experts on CNN’s “Finding Jesus,” which premiered Sunday evening. I also appear in each episode of the program.

Viewers were invited to tweet and post their questions to Facebook during the show. Below are some of the most interesting, and my answers to them.

#2. Searching For Sunday

It’s strange that Christians so rarely talk about failure when we claim to follow a guy whose three-year ministry was cut short by his crucifixion.

First, Jesus’ ministry was not ‘cut short’. It was completed in 3 years and it was not a failure. I do not know if Christians rarely talk about failure but I am sure we do when things do not go as expected.

But as nearly every denomination in the United States faces declining membership and waning influence, Christians may need to get used to the idea of measuring significance by something other than money, fame, and power.

I do not know where she gets this idea but the reason for the decline is that most Christians do not want to live as the Bible says.  They like to be called Christian and think that they will be going to heaven but do not want the difficult aspects of the faith. When you do not teach the truth how can you expect people to stick around, especially when you claim to have the truth.

Or you claim that Jesus has all the answers then you turn to the secular world for your answers.

The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control—the sort of stuff that, let’s face it, doesn’t always sell.

Really? Who says?  I would take 5 people embodying the fruits of the spirit over 5 mega-church pastors any day of the week. But that is my opinion. The truth is people will fall away from the church and popular pastors are not the reason why. The Bible tells us that in the end people would leave the church so let’s not point fingers at anyone just yet.

I often wonder if the role of the clergy in this age is not to dispense information or guard the prestige of their authority, but rather to go first, to volunteer the truth about their sins, their dreams, their failures, and their fears in order to free others to do the same.

I just do not understand how that person gets to keep writing books and keeps getting booked to give lectures. She doesn’t have a clue about Christianity nor Christ and it shows with such illogical statements exampled above.She also doesn’t understand anything about leadership or how people view their leaders.

#3. This Is Not About Hovind

It is about the following words in bold:

It is called Search Creation. Which is misleading, because you aren’t searching the entirety of creation, you are searching one narrow and deceitful definition which pretends it is the only one

There is only one definition of creation and it is neither narrow nor deceitful.  To make such a claim, that author would have to provide real proof that the biblical authors intended upon deceiving people and if they did, then that would disqualify them as biblical writers.  How can he call a supernatural creation deceitful when God tells us exactly what he did in the beginning?

It would be deceitful to say he create done way then did it another but our only source for the alternative comes from unbelievers and those who do not accept Genesis thus the only people being deceitful are those making false accusations against the true definition of creation. All these people offer to the world are not real scriptures with a real manuscript track record showing an unchanged written word for millenia but their own opinions based upon secular and deceived findings.

Where are the manuscripts demonstrating that the scriptures we have are erroneous? What we have is over 2,000 years of manuscripts all repeating the same thing, the exact words we have in our Bibles today so those who narrowly define scripture to reflect God’s truth are not being deceitful. When will these people who write such accusations going to learn that they have nothing to offer anyone because God is not backing their words or attempts to deceive the world?

#4. Free Range–abc-news-parenting.html?bcmt=1425437111045-51d4374e-016a-424d-94dd-409c6fae6abc&bcmt_s=u#mediacommentsugc_container

A Maryland couple who was being investigated for allowing their two children to walk home alone from a neighborhood park have been “found responsible for unsubstantiated child neglect” by the state’s Child Protective Services.

I am not a fan of governmental oversight organizations, most of the time because they are not honest, fair, just and implement their own personal views instead of actually doing what the government has directed them to do. I am even less of a fan of those organizations that focus on children and this feeling has been with me ever since I read about  the Wenatchee witch-hunt.

The damage out of control government workers can do is immense and there is very little chance of defending yourself against their allegations or get justice by having those corrupt workers disciplined for their over-the-top actions. There are a lot of people who would have parents believe that a pedophile or child molester is behind every bush in every neighborhood but that just isn’t the reality.

Yes there is danger out there but it is not as bad as the government officials or t.v. newscasters let on.  Letting children walk home by themselves or play outside is not child neglect but being realistic. You just can’t watch your children 24 hours a day for 7 days a week. If a parent did then their children would feel like they were in prison and would probably rebel as soon as they could.

There is a need for SOME government oversight in this area as SOME parents, maybe a few, need to be watched but not these type of people who know reality and are not afraid to let their children grow up correctly. Sadly, government officials have gotten it into their heads that only they know how to parent and that is just wrong.

The Meitivs stand by their belief that they are the best ones to judge if their kids are ready, and if their neighborhood is safe enough, for them to be on their own, not the government.

And I would agree. God gave children to their parents and gave them intelligence, a guidebook and other tools to raise those children. We need fewer busybodies.


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