An Update

14 Dec

No I am not beginning regular posts, it is just that weekends tend to get very long when you are recuperating and I need something to do. People around the internet have been sounding off a lot lately so this is just an update of their actions and a few words on my part in rebuttal

#1. Attacks on Creation (creationism)

Bill Nye— he has been active lately, for what reason I do not know except maybe to spread hatred against Bible believers who believe Genesis 1. He has two articles out recently:

All he is doing is insulting those who disagree with him which is par for the course for evolutionists. For some reason they have this need for everyone to think their way and they are not happy when people reject their lies.  Nye brings nothing new to the table and offers nothing to no one.  Creationists do think we just do not need to think about origins because God laid it out for us thus we can spend our time and resources focusing on those problems in life that really matter. Evolutionists prefer to be selfish and would rather spend their money on themselves and their theory and could careless about the poor, the starving, or those who have other needs to be met.

James McGrath also has had a few anti-creation posts lately as he seems to want to be the leader in attacking those who side with God:

Again you see the insults hurled at true believers in the last two links and if evolution were true and if progressive christianity was the right path, why do we see so little of what Jesus taught in those people’s behavior and words? I do not know which group is worse, those who are secular and side with their evolutionary theory or those who claim to be christian yet adopted the progressive alternative? I have experienced large doses of insults, personal attacks and so on from both groups.

I participated in the discussion at the second link and had to wade through the usual wisecracks. Most of the people stopped talking to me when I pointed out that I could not believe that rational thinking people could believe that physical evidence could lay untouched for millions of years yet could not accept physical evidence for an event a few thousand years ago. (I paraphrased myself).

In other words I pointed out how irrational they were being. To address the top link, it is true that evolution is not impossible for God. He could easily have created a process to develop everything BUT he didn’t do origins that way. He told us how he did it–he spoke and it was. Why is this so hard for anti-Genesis 1 people to grasp?

They are saying things that are very obvious in their contradiction to God’s own words yet they refuse to repent of their error. The problem is not with the creationist but those who reject God’s words.

Age Of Rocks– is at it again with their scientific mumbo jumbo

One quote struck me as what is wrong with the scientific view of origins:

Earth history is recorded in fine detail for those who can decipher its cryptic text.

In other words, you need to be specially trained in bible codes and scientific mumbo jumbo to figure out how origins took place or how the dinosaurs became extinct. Earth’s history is not as simple to read as God made it, the scientist has to make it for the elite only then the rest of the world just has to take their word for it. Sounds more like Mormonism than science.

Everything that author said in that post is just wrong and presents nothing of value to anyone. The truth is  and this is where I agree with Ken Ham, the lengthy life spans in the pre-flood worlds allowed for animals to grow far larger than what we see in today’s world. There is NO evidence for a meteor hitting the earth and wiping out the dinosaurs, none whatsoever. We have evidence for Noah’s flood destroying the pre-flood animals but none for this fictitious meteor.

#2. Bad Move:

Ken Ham and his billboard. What a disappointing maneuver on his part. It makes me sad to see him react in this manner. Christianity does not need this childish behavior from those who defend its truth.  It is just all round a bad move on AIG’s part. Sometimes I think AIG is all about Ham’s ego than the truth.

I wish all Christian organizations would get their biblical act together and follow Jesus in their responses to negative comments or decisions.

B. Corey and his hate mail list:

It is a bad move as he calls himself a Christian yet whines about all the negative responses he gets from those who disagree with him. His own list is contrary to God’s word yet he has the audacity to say he presented biblical arguments. I asked him what criteria he used to categorize what letters went into his hate mail file and which didn’t, I have yet to receive an answer to that inquiry.

If you look at his list you can see why he is getting ‘hate mail’. He just says that God and the Bible are wrong and presents nothing divinely inspired to replace those passages he doesn’t like or supports his point of view. He should know that there is no such thing as racism as everyone is part of 1 race yet he promotes it like multiple races are real. Churches should teach the truth concerning humans and maybe that way we can cut down on the attacks on those with different colored skin

He calls homosexuals christian when God clearly does not include them in his kingdom. Yup, I can understand why he is getting hate mail, he just places himself above God and his word.

#3. Going To The Absurd and Sick

The last link is just sick and missing important captions to understand what is going on in their minds. Who in their right mind would post such a picture as that? It certainly isn’t funny. The other two just mock and has no place in the Christian repertoire. As you can tell I am not a fan of religious cartoons as they do not send the correct message and cartoons are supposed to make someone laugh or be entertaining and only someone with a twisted mind would find those either.

I am also not a Jim West fan. The following just cinched that attitude

Only someone with mental illness would publicly post that quote and then agree with it.

#4. Bad Advice

B. Corey dispenses terrible advice supported by bad logic in this post.  Under his reasoning a Christian could not work in government, be a politician or a part of the military or for that matter work for any unbeliever because they all do bad things. I am not supporting torture but that article is throwing the baby out with the bath water and calling anything good America or Americans have done over the past 300 years useless.

What he wrote is not a biblical perspective but his own personal view for his own personal, biased agenda. You do not toss out the country but pray for it and its leaders asking God to bring his change.

#5. Flood & Jesus Stories

James McGrath goes after the multitude of flood stories found throughout the ancient world and of course he argument makes no sense. There is no reason for every ancient nation to have a flood account in their history, especially when they all take place at roughly the same time in all their histories.

The only thing that makes sense is the biblical account of the flood then when the people dispersed, they took their memories of that event and altered it as their commitment to God wore thin and disappeared.There is no valid reason for Israel to have copied a Babylonian flood story and adapt it to their religious beliefs. What purpose would such an act serve?

Every Jewish person would know its source and would not accept the altered story as part of their actual history. Any explanation other than the biblical one explodes in the faces of the unbeliever once the believer starts looking beneath the surface of the explanation.

As for the Jesus, it wasn’t the biblical authors who borrowed from ancient cults or their leaders’ biographies.  Again there is no valid reason or real purpose for them to do so. It always amazes me that scholars would automatically declare that it was the biblical authors who copied from secular sources. So far they have never said the opposite, yet if the biblical authors copied from secular sources that means there is no God and maybe that is what the secular really wants.

#6. More Copying Accusations

So it seems logical to surmise
that the religion of Israel should be seen as rooted in its Canaanite
environment (Korpel 1990; De Moor 1997)
Again, scholars automatically assume that the biblical authors copied from their secular neighbors. And again, not one word to the contrary.
If you read the article, (click on the pdf button) you would see how absurd it would be for the Israelites to adapt that weird and horrendous story about Horon.
Of course as you read the article you will see that the authors present no real evidence to support their assumption.  It is strictly their personal opinion based upon some totally unrelated secular myth and their bias against the biblical record.

31 responses to “An Update

  1. Ashley Haworth-roberts

    December 28, 2014 at 10:06 pm

    Are you for real?

    Well, you criticise Ken Ham so perhaps you are!

    However, asteroids or comets hitting the Earth in the past are NOT scientific mumbo jumbo as you falsely imply. You are using the Bible to ‘bash’ science that you do not properly understand. There is no excuse for that in an era where internet access is freely available.

    • theologyarchaeology

      December 29, 2014 at 2:26 am

      oh i understand it all too well and could very easily turn your words around and apply them to your view of the Bible and how you do not understand it then use secular science to bash it.

      the existence of the internet has nothing to do with anything. it doesn’t change the truthfulness of the Bible but demonstrates biblical teaching quite well. the internet provides great evidence for the sinfulness of man.

      We could use the attacks on Bill Cosby as a great example of the amount of injustice thier is in the world, the amount of false accusations, the failure to present real evidence. yes the internet is a good tool to support the Bible.

  2. Ashley Haworth-roberts

    December 29, 2014 at 6:15 pm

    If you are in the US you should know about this formation, with or without the internet (and if you don’t you should not be making uninformed and nonsensical online claims regarding ‘meteors’):

    • theologyarchaeology

      December 30, 2014 at 4:45 am

      Again that is unverifiable opinion. For all you know the flood waters helped create that depression. All your supposed evidence is read into the remains and nothing is observed or taken out that would support the claim made by evolutionists

  3. Ashley Haworth-roberts

    December 29, 2014 at 6:17 pm

    Or are you claiming (falsely) that there is no evidence for a massive impact, a very long time ago, in Mexico’s Yucatan peninsula?

    • theologyarchaeology

      December 30, 2014 at 4:43 am

      No, I would not be falsely claiming anything saying it did not happen. You cannot verify it did. As far as you know it could have been the result of a volcanic eruption– aka thera.

      • Ashley Haworth-roberts

        December 30, 2014 at 5:29 pm

        It’s very simple, David. I believe that the scientific experts know what they are talking about and know that the Barringer crater was not caused by a ‘flood’ and that the remains of a massive ancient crater in Mexico’s Yucatan peninsula were not instead caused by ‘volcanism’. Which ‘flood waters’ were you referring to by the way? Can you verify floodwaters in the past at the site of the Barringer crater?

        • theologyarchaeology

          December 31, 2014 at 2:56 am

          how would they know what they are talking about when all they are looking at a hole or a crater with no observation of it developing and no historical record to guide their investigation?

          I only refer to one flood unless i am being geographically and time specific.

          • Ashley Haworth-roberts

            December 31, 2014 at 7:12 pm

            Thank you for clearing my comments from 30 Dec. You haven’t explained how a flood could have caused the Barringer crater and i suspect you cannot begin to do so.

    • theologyarchaeology

      December 30, 2014 at 4:41 am

      What is your point with that link?

  4. Ashley Haworth-roberts

    December 30, 2014 at 5:23 pm


  5. Ashley Haworth-roberts

    December 30, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    I answered your question, liar. Information was the point of the link. And my other censored post can be read here, creationist fraud.

    • theologyarchaeology

      December 31, 2014 at 2:55 am

      it is always wise to not come onto other people’s boards and start throwing around false accusations. i posted your links as i got them. if you do not believe me then that is your problem.

      • Ashley Haworth-roberts

        December 31, 2014 at 7:14 pm

        I believe you. I’ve explained that when I first logged on yesterday my unmoderated posts were no longer visible (but they then became visible after I followed a request to log on again).

        • theologyarchaeology

          January 1, 2015 at 3:24 am

          I am not a computer whiz so i am not sure how all the settings work. I have limited access to the internet right now so my approval response may be slow.

          • Ashley Haworth-roberts

            January 3, 2015 at 3:49 am

            Possible slow approval of new posts is noted – no rush.

  6. Ashley Haworth-roberts

    December 30, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    I could not see my latest two attempted comments just now so I logically assumed you had censored them. But then I had to log in again – and they re-appeared ‘awaiting moderation’. So perhaps you will approve them after all? If you do I will of course report that at the other thread.

    • theologyarchaeology

      December 31, 2014 at 2:53 am

      i do not edit comments unless they are too extreme or just for some non-on topic reason. yours have been left untouched by me but thanks for the false accusation and showing me that you really are not interested in discussing anything constructively. I may answer one more of your responses before moving on

      • Ashley Haworth-roberts

        December 31, 2014 at 7:18 pm

        Virtually every previous YEC I have encountered on the blogosphere has indulged in censorship of awkward queries and comments (things such as that link referring to David Tee). That is why I was suspicious. But I do not assume that all YECs are exactly the same. If you are prepared to allow difficult queries to remain visible I welcome that. Of course abusive comments may need editing or perhaps should not be approved at all – no problem with that.

        • theologyarchaeology

          January 1, 2015 at 3:23 am

          I have always allowed difficult questions and comments. There is no point in having a discussion if you cannot deal with the complete context of the person’s words.

  7. Ashley Haworth-roberts

    December 30, 2014 at 11:28 pm

    All about you (link provided to me by the blogger at Age of Rocks (but I ex[pect you will censor this since it does not cast you in a good light assuming it is accurate):

  8. Ashley Haworth-roberts

    December 31, 2014 at 1:42 am

    If you do not moderate my posts you will prove yourself to be a fraud, David.

    • theologyarchaeology

      December 31, 2014 at 2:59 am

      whatever that means?????

  9. theologyarchaeology

    January 1, 2015 at 3:21 am

    “Thank you for clearing my comments from 30 Dec. You haven’t explained how a flood could have caused the Barringer crater and i suspect you cannot begin to do so.”

    That is because I haven’t looked at it closely enough to draw conclusions. i am recuperating from knee surgery so my time on the internet is limited.

    Would you say that the Punch Bowl in Korea was the result of a comet hitting the area? it has similar features as Yucatan so why not extrapolate your thinking to that land formation?

    The problem is with your claims. You have no evidence that a comet hit 65 million years ago, you have no records of it hitting or any that have studied the formation in times past, nor can you account for the devastation you claim it brought when it landed.

    it is all speculation and you have not ruled out any alternative source with real evidence that bars those sources from creating the same formation. You assume (and I am using the general form of the word you throughout this response) and that is all you have.

  10. Ashley Haworth-roberts

    January 2, 2015 at 10:13 pm

    I’m unfamiliar with this but note that it is described as a valley and NOT a crater:,_Korea
    “You have no evidence that a comet hit 65 million years ago.” I have second hand evidence of a comet impact in Mexico and I beg to differ:

    • theologyarchaeology

      January 3, 2015 at 2:40 am

      Sadly, there is no evidence to support your point in those articles. Most of the remarks by scientists do the usual tap dancing and use words like ‘suggest’, ‘believe’ but point to nothing concrete that shows beyond a shadow of a doubt a comet hit the earth in those spots.

      I see a lot of assumption and speculation but nothing that could be considered real evidence. Lately, I have been amazed at how intelligent people like yourself and scientists think that evidence for their theories can survive untouched for millions of years yet feel that no evidence exists for a biblical event that took place a scant few thousand years ago.

      It boggles the mind to see this phenomenon take place. You do not even bat an eye when people are talking about the uncontaminated evidence they have uncovered from a supposed few million years ago.

      • Ashley Haworth-roberts

        January 3, 2015 at 3:37 am

        You are not speaking the truth. You will never convince me with such lame arguments. There is plenty of evidence – but you appear to have been brainwashed against science somewhere along the way:

        That there is not and cannot be evidence for any event that contradicts Genesis and is never mentioned there. (. Of course you fail to talk specifics. You fail to explain how the feature in the Yucatan cannot be the rim of a cometary/asteroid crater – or what else it ‘must’ be. YEC-ism is an anti-science cult basically.

        Your worldwide flood – for which there should be abundant evidence given how recently it is supposed to have occurred – is the thing for which there is a distinct lack of historical and scientific evidence.

        • theologyarchaeology

          January 3, 2015 at 4:46 am

          And still you come on to my site and call me a liar. Why is it me that has been brainwashed? Secular science is trying to destroy God, hope, salvation and eternal life while offering nothing to replace any of those things.

          I highly doubt it is me who is brainwashed. What specifics do you want? Creation and the flood were one time supernatural acts which are to be taken by faith. We have evidence for those acts but not the kind you want or will recognize as valid.

          How can I talk specifics when your scientists do not present any real evidence for their claim then expect everyone to fall down on our knees in utter amazement as they dig up supposed untouched evidence from millions of years ago. That argument is more ridiculous than you accuse me of bringing.

          How do you expect me to accept the idea that the supposed evidence secular scientists have presented has remained uncontaminated and untouched for millions of years when they cannot even tell me what I had for breakfast last week?

          Secular science’s extraordinary claims is what turns me off of secular science not brainwashing.

          We do have abundant evidence for Noah’s flood. Sunken cities, Sumerian King’s list, caves and fissures filled with both human and supposedly long extinct animal bones brought together by the same catastrophe and deposited where we have found them.

          What we do not have is real evidence for a comet making the crater

          • Ashley Haworth-roberts

            January 3, 2015 at 10:11 pm

            You have a closed mind. I don’t (not as much as you).

  11. theologyarchaeology

    January 4, 2015 at 3:23 am

    “You have a closed mind. I don’t (not as much as you).”

    i have found the truth, I do not need an open mind anymore. i give you evidence and you ignore it so please do not say global flood supporters have no evidence. or do not present any. it is juts ignored because people like you do not want the truth

    by the way, some of those caves were documented by Dr. Charles Hapgood, a professor from your side of the fence.

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